Pull freeze
Jacob Carlborg
doob at me.com
Tue Jul 31 00:14:32 PDT 2012
On 2012-07-31 08:24, Russel Winder wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-07-30 at 23:40 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> […]
>> Walter and I will dedicate time after 2.060 to improving the process.
>
> "Improve" implies tinkering at the edges. This situation requires a
> "change" or perhaps "revolution". I suggest just switching to a
> ready-made DVCS / Git process that is known to work, and is well
> documented, rather than trying to craft a new one based on CVCS /
> Subversion / CVS history.
>
> To be honest there is never a reason to freeze a repository, even with
> Subversion, and definitely not with Git, Mercurial and Bazaar. With
> these latter DVCSs, branching and cherry-picking, means that you just
> branch from master to create the branch for the release. Whether this
> becomes a full-blown maintenance branch or just a temporary release
> branch that merges back post release is a fundamental question of
> process on which there are opinions. Go has a "there will only ever be
> the default branch" model, Groovy has gone with a "there will be
> maintenance branches for each minor release" model. There are others.
>
> I think the trick here is to plump for one, go with it. and then
> "improve" in the light of actual experience. I also suggest the time for
> debate is over, that it is now time for action. I suggest privately
> polling the people who actually commit stuff to the D compiler codebase
> and to Phobos, to see if there is a suitable process that those folk can
> work with immediately. If not go with one of the publicized Git
> processes that is documented to your satisfaction. People like me who
> just waffle and don't deliver code amendments should not have a vote at
> this time having chipped in to this point in time. People like me should
> just adjust to the process put in place – which should be easy of a
> truly DVCS process is put in place.
>
> If there isn't a new process in place immediately 2.060 is released and
> master tagged, this I think this would have to be considered a "red
> flag". The corollary is, I guess, to delay releasing 2.060 till you have
> a new process as well as the release being ready to ship.
>
> Of course none of this stops people preparing evolutions of the mainline
> now even during a mainline repository freeze, this is DVCS / Git and so
> Subversion trunk rules just do not apply!
>
I completely agree.
--
/Jacob Carlborg
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