I have a plan.. I really DO

[Ecstatic Coder]

On Saturday, 30 June 2018 at 07:11:18 UTC, Joakim wrote:
> On Saturday, 30 June 2018 at 06:52:01 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote:
>> On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 22:59:25 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
>>> On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 20:13:07 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote:
>>>
>>>> Have a look at Crystal's Github project, you will see that 
>>>> Crystal, still in development and quite far from its 1.0 
>>>> mile version (= despite no parallism and windows support, 
>>>> etc) ALREADY has 11206 stars, 881 forks and 292 contributors 
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/crystal-lang/crystal
>>>>
>>>> Not bad for a language in its 0.25 version and first 
>>>> released in June 2014 (4 years), especially compared to D in 
>>>> its 2.0 version and first released in December 2001 (16 
>>>> years), whose official compiler has 1806 stars, 452 forks 
>>>> and 168 contributors :
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/dlang/dmd
>>>>
>>>> If those numbers means anything, I think its that Crystal is 
>>>> probably getting popularity much quicker than D, and 
>>>> honestly, after having tried it, I think it's really 
>>>> deserved, even if I agree that there are still many things 
>>>> that remain to be implemented before it's really ready for 
>>>> an official "production-ready" 1.0 release.
>>>
>>> Do you by chance work as a manager? Managers like comparisons 
>>> that involve one number, with a higher number being better. I 
>>> don't know what can be learned about D from that comparison 
>>> and I don't think anyone else does either.
>>
>> That's your opinion.
>>
>> First, most managers don't become manager by chance, but 
>> because of their skills.
>>
>> Like being able to take the right decisions, based on facts, 
>> not on personal preferences.
>>
>> For instance, if a good manager sees that the github project 
>> of a 4 years old compiler has been liked by 11206 persons, and 
>> the github project of a 16 years old compiler has been liked 
>> by 1806 persons, I think he could probably think that MUCH 
>> more people are interested in the development of the first 
>> github project than in the second.
>
> I'd hope a manager would look at actually meaningful stats like 
> downloads, rather than just fluffy stats such as "likes":
>
> http://www.somsubhra.com/github-release-stats/?username=crystal-lang&repository=crystal
> http://www.somsubhra.com/github-release-stats/?username=ldc-developers&repository=ldc
>
> I see around 9k total downloads of the various Crystal 0.24 and 
> 0.25 versions over the last 8 months, compared to 14k downloads 
> of the ldc 1.9 compiler alone from two months ago. Of course, 
> all these stats can be gamed, but I think it'd be hard to argue 
> Crystal is more popular.

Anyway, I you think that Crystal is not worth our attention, it's 
your right.

But my PERSONAL opinion is that Crystal will soon become a great 
alternative to D, Go and Rust for web server development, while I 
still think that D is BY FAR a much better language than Go or 
Rust.

So now we can try to analyze what make Crystal a useful and 
popular language in this domain and learn lessons from it, or 
simply ignore it.

Very honestly I don't care, because I exclusively use D as a file 
processing scripting language, and I'm very happy with D in its 
current state.

And to be perfectly clear on that point, its current syntax is 
perfect, very simple and concise, and if DON'T want any change 
made to its current syntax which would make it less simple and 
concise when using it in GC mode.