Vision document for H1 2018
Joakim
dlang at joakim.fea.st
Sun Mar 11 09:53:12 UTC 2018
On Sunday, 11 March 2018 at 01:25:07 UTC, Dylan Graham wrote:
>> betterc is just another way of supporting that crowd..and it's
>> a very big crowd.
>
> Yeah, 29% of the crowd.
29% of the existing D crowd who answered the survey, which means
around 150 people, or about how many download one compiler, dmd,
in an average hour of the day:
http://erdani.com/d/downloads.daily.png
Meanwhile, Walter wrote a blog post about his betterC efforts
last year, and it was the third-most liked link from dlang.org on
reddit over the last year, with 226 net likes:
https://www.reddit.com/domain/dlang.org/top/?sort=top&t=year
No. 2? Another article about using D without the GC.
Now, as I've said on the forum several times, I personally don't
care for @nogc or betterC: I don't use them. I'm sure many
existing D users don't either. However, as those reddit stats
show, there is interest from _outside_ the D community for them.
When it comes to strategic decisions like this to bring in new
users from outside the community, you cannot depend on polling
users within the community to figure it out. Argue against
betterC really bringing in new users if you want, but arguing
that it doesn't help existing users is missing the point.
I'm not sure how successful betterC will be in pulling in those
users, as I'm not a C/C++ programmer and don't know what they
want, but the popularity of those links suggests the D foundation
is on the right track.
>> Your problem is not betterc, but something else. So focus on
>> that instead.
>
> You're right, my problem isn't BetterC, it's the fact that
> Foundation can't get its priorities right. BetterC is a symptom.
The Foundation's priorities are not simply serving the existing
users but growing the userbase.
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