DLF Response to Generative AI and D: An Open Letter
Indraj Gandham
newsgroups at indraj.net
Sun Jul 12 13:08:30 UTC 2026
Thank you for reading the letter and preparing this response. It
is good to hear that the concerns raised are being taken
seriously. I cannot speak on behalf of the other signatories, but
nevertheless I would like to make a number of points:
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.
First of all, it is correct to point out that this risk is not
unique to LLM-generated contributions. However, it can also be
argued that a human would not unknowingly copy to the same extent
as an LLM would, in the sense that for larger works (e.g. over a
thousand lines of code) it is unlikely that a human would be able
to recall all of the original material from memory or recreate it
by accident. Even so, this aspect does warrant further
consideration as copying can be done knowingly and maliciously by
prospective contributors. Having a policy against so-called
“drive-by PRs” may mitigate this to some extent.
Secondly, while responsibility for the inclusion of infringing
material does lie with the project’s review process,
responsibility for further distribution of infringing material
does lie with the users of Phobos. To my knowledge, whether the
infringement was innocent or not is relevant only when
determining the severity of the penalty to be imposed (in the
United States). It does not erode liability. There also exists a
risk of secondary economic effects; for example, a commercial
product which includes infringing portions of Phobos may need to
be withdrawn, directly affecting sales and therefore the
livelihoods of the software engineers working at that company. It
is also likely that the company would sustain reputational
damage, potentially affecting its ability to raise future revenue.
Thirdly, I would like to draw attention to Section 1202(b) of the
Digital Millennium Copyright Act, reproduced below:
> (b) Removal or Alteration of Copyright Management
> Information.—No person shall, without the authority of the
> copyright owner or the law—
> (1) intentionally remove or alter any copyright management
> information,
> (2) distribute or import for distribution copyright management
> information knowing that the copyright management information
> has been removed or altered without authority of the copyright
> owner or the law, or
> (3) distribute, import for distribution, or publicly perform
> works, copies of works, or phonorecords, knowing that copyright
> management information has been removed or altered without
> authority of the copyright owner or the law,
> knowing, or, with respect to civil remedies under section 1203,
> having reasonable grounds to know, that it will induce, enable,
> facilitate, or conceal an infringement of any right under this
> title.
The response to our letter does not take into account that
companies distributing LLM products are being sued under this
provision. In one of the most high-profile cases, the plaintiffs
alleged that the defendants’ product alters CMI, and that they
distributed the product knowing that it would alter CMI. The
defendants attempted to have the allegation dismissed, but this
was rejected by the court. The matter is stayed pending referral
to a different court.
I would also like to draw attention to the phrase “reasonable
grounds to know”. If DLF is aware of the risk that LLMs may alter
CMI, and still permits the inclusion of large volumes of LLM
output in Phobos, would DLF be held liable? Could this also
affect downstream users distributing Phobos in their products?
These are questions that need to be answered. On that note, it is
good to hear DLF is considering our suggestion to seek legal
guidance.
The policy principles and contributor affirmation represent a
strong start. It is, however, somewhat disappointing to hear that
our suggestion regarding a moratorium on the direct inclusion of
AI outputs (specifically in Phobos) has been rejected outright.
If this is of immediate concern to any of the signatories, you
may wish to consider other options such as Adam D. Ruppe’s OpenD
compilers. There is no need to abandon D altogether. I also
understand that a new fork of D without LLM output may appear at
some point in the near future.
Finally, I would like to say that I never expected to receive so
much support, including from some high-profile users of D. The
letter may not have succeeded in all of its aims, but the
response provides more clarity around DLF’s position with regard
to our concerns. This is important because it allows us to make
informed choices in the future.
To everyone on both sides of the ledger, thank you for taking the
time to participate.
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