DLF Response to Generative AI and D: An Open Letter
Adam Wilson
flyboynw at gmail.com
Thu Jul 16 10:05:27 UTC 2026
On Monday, 13 July 2026 at 11:29:16 UTC, Indraj Gandham wrote:
> The problem is that LLMs are not *always* transformative. As
> pointed out in the original letter, LLMs can emit significant
> portions of copyrighted code verbatim.
This would have to be adjudicated on a case by case basis at the
expense of the copyright holder. Essentially, you have to prove
each instance of non-transformative use. As copyright is specific
to *copies* of works, there is no "blanket case" for "well this
might happen". You have to prove that the LLM emitted a *copy* of
your specific work, and then you have to prove that said copy
caused you damages.
> Even if you were to implement some kind of automated check for
> unaltered content, it is a well-established legal principle that
> copying non-literal elements of software (such as program
> structure) may also constitute infringement.
This is factually incorrect. See [Oracle v.
Google](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_LLC_v._Oracle_America%2C_Inc.#Decision). As this has been decided by SCOTUS there are no further avenues of appeal and this is in fact an entirely settled issue. The only remaining option is to lobby for legislative action.
> As I pointed out in the other thread, I believe that the case
> law (in the United States) is far from settled, and these
> rulings should be treated as preliminary. I also think that it
> would be unwise to rely on blanket arguments; otherwise there
> would be nothing stopping people from developing new models
> with the specific intent to circumvent copyright using
> "transformation" as a shield, irrespective of how
> transformative the LLM really was in that particular instance.
>
> This is not well-trodden ground and I think it would be prudent
> for users of Phobos to exercise an abundance of caution beyond
> the principles outlined in DLF's response, at least for the
> time being.
It would be prudent for anybody with these concerns to seek
appropriate local legal counsel. Nobody at DLF is saying
otherwise.
I would personally state that demanding the DLF do this work for
you is far beyond what any person has the right to expect of the
DLF. Or any public organization for that matter. That is your
responsibility, not the DLF's.
Please stop conjuring up vague legal-sounding hypotheticals. The
only correct answer is "Seek appropriate local legal counsel."
Anybody who takes legal advice from rando's off the internet
deserves whatever happens to them. That applies to any legal
advice that you might demand the DLF provide you, just as much as
it applies to advice from you or I.
For all current and future hypotheticals you have conjured or may
yet conjure up, this is the standing reply:
**Seek appropriate local legal counsel.**
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