Template for function or delegate (nothing else)
Steven Schveighoffer
schveiguy at yahoo.com
Thu Feb 10 10:51:58 PST 2011
On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:04:28 -0500, spir <denis.spir at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 02/10/2011 02:51 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:39:13 -0500, spir <denis.spir at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 02/09/2011 11:05 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
>>
>>>> I don't think you want templates. What you want is a tagged union
>>>> (and a struct
>>>> is MUCH better suited for this):
>>>>
>>>> // untested!
>>>>
>>>> struct Example
>>>> {
>>>> private
>>>> {
>>>> bool isDelegate;
>>>> union
>>>> {
>>>> void function() fn;
>>>> void delegate() dg;
>>>> }
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> void setCallback(void function() f) { this.fn = f; isDelegate =
>>>> false;}
>>>> void setCallback(void delegate() d) { this.dg = d; isDelegate = true;}
>>>>
>>>> void opCall()
>>>> {
>>>> if(isDelegate)
>>>> dg();
>>>> else
>>>> fn();
>>>> }
>>>> }
>>>
>>> Waow, very nice solution.
>>> I really question the function/delegate distinction (mostly
>>> artificial, imo)
>>> that "invents" issues necessiting workarounds like that. What does it
>>> mean,
>>> what does it bring?
>>
>> A function pointer is compatible with a C function pointer. C does not
>> have
>> delegates, so if you want to do callbacks, you need to use function
>> pointers.
>> There is no way to combine them and keep C compatibility.
>>
>>> Right, there is one pointer less for funcs. This save 4 or 8 bytes, so
>>> to
>>> say, nothing; who develops apps with arrays of billions of funcs?
>>> There are
>>> written in source ;-) Even then, if this saving of apointer was of any
>>> relevance, then it should be an implementation detail that does not
>>> leak into
>>> artificial semantic diff, creating issues on the programmer side. What
>>> do you
>>> think?
>>
>> What you want is already implemented. There is a relatively new phobos
>> construct that builds a delegate out of a function pointer. In fact, my
>> code
>> could use it and save the tag:
>>
>>
>> // again, untested!
>>
>> import std.functional : toDelegate;
>>
>> struct Example
>> {
>> private void delegate() dg;
>>
>> void setCallback(void function() f) { this.dg = toDelegate(f); }
>> void setCallback(void delegate() d) { this.dg = d; }
>>
>> void opCall() { dg(); }
>> }
>>
>> Note that toDelegate doesn't appear on the docs because of a doc
>> generation bug...
>
> Right.
>
> I had not thought at the C-compatibility issue. So, let us say the
> func/dg distinction must remain in the language, on programmer-side,
> because of that. Then, is there anything that prevent the above cast to
> be implicit? Then, programmers would only have to define a single
> interface, using delegate everywhere; and not care about where and how
> user funcs are defined.
> (because as you know presently whether a ref'ed func becomes a func
> pointer or a delegate depends on /where/ it is defined...)
>
> Second point. I would like referencing of functions/delegates passed as
> arguments to be implicite. After all, conceptually, what we pass is a
> "function object". Not a pointer. That the implementation needs to
> "point" them is just this, implementation. The '&' just pollutes the
> code meaninglessly;
This is the way it is in C, and D purposely does not do this to avoid
ambiguity (did you want to call the function or get it's address?).
> and it's absence creates weird bugs:
>
> void f0 ( ) { writeln(1); }
> void f1 (int i) { writeln(i); }
> void do0 (void function ( ) f) { f( ); }
> void do1 (void function (int) f) { f(3); }
>
> unittest {
> // Error: function __trials__.do0 (void function() f) is not
> callable
> // using argument types (void)
> do0(f0);
>
> // __trials__.d(46): Error: function __trials__.f1 (int i) is not
> callable
> // using argument types ()
> do1(f1);
>
> do0(&f0); // ok
> do1(&f1); // ok
> }
>
> Error messages are difficult to interpret for a diagnosis, I guess. Note
> that the first one concerns the caller, while the second one concerns
> the callee...
> Implicite referencing would solve that issue /and/ match semantics /and/
> be more consistent /and/ make code nicer. About consistency, I mean that
> functions are already implicitely dereferenced: do1 does not need to
> call its arg f using
> (*f)(3);
> (this version works as well, indeed)
When properties are properly implemented, I expect this error message to
be different. Currently, it thinks you are trying to call the function f0
and pass its result to do0.
-Steve
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