"The End of Native Code"
David Medlock
noone at nowhere.com
Tue Jun 13 16:46:06 PDT 2006
Walter Bright wrote:
> pragma wrote:
>
>> Slashdot had an interesting ask slashdot article yesterday about when
>> is it the
>> right time to go whole-hog into interpreted/VM style language
>> development.
>>
>> http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/06/06/12/2044245.shtml
>>
>> As its an issue that we're all familar with, I figured I'd read and
>> see why this
>> article had 1000+ comments. I was actually quite suprised to find a
>> number of
>> people, mostly C++ guys, clamoring for "native compilation plus garbage
>> collection" or some variant thereof. What was also suprising was the
>> number of
>> "have you not seen D yet?" replies to these posts, and how well they
>> were modded
>> *up*. As slashdot is peer-moderated, this means that registered users
>> of the
>> site had to take the time to hand out positive reviews on those
>> particular
>> posts.
>>
>> So I have to say: you guys rock. Remember, slashdot users pretty much
>> hung D
>> from the yard-arm on not one but two articles about D. What I saw
>> today was a
>> subtle, but noticable shift in this attitude. The word finally seems
>> to be
>> getting out.
>
>
> I saw the article when it first came out, but I obviously need to go
> read the followups.
>
> The gist of the article as I interpreted it is that people go to script
> languages because they are more productive. Why are they more productive?
>
> 1) garbage collection
>
> 2) dynamic typing
>
> 3) lots of libraries
>
> D's got garbage collection.
>
> Dynamic typing is interesting in that while it is more productive, it's
> a big reason why scripting languages will always be slooow. It's also
> interesting in that if you look real hard at C++ templates, a lot of
> what they are used for is to fake dynamic typing.
>
> D is moving towards what I call implicit typing - I've been taking a
> hard look at where one is required to specify a type, and instead trying
> to figure out a way the type can be inferred instead (foreach is a good
> example). Implicit typing gets D a number of the benefits of dynamic
> typing with less complexity than the C++ template approach.
<snip>
Are you saying you will move towards SML like typing (Hindley-Milner type) ?
Please elaborate if you can.
-DavidM
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