"Frits van Bommel" <fvbommel at REMwOVExCAPSs.nl> wrote in message news:eqi7ph$io7$2 at digitaldaemon.com... > > "that sort of thing" == "and stuff like that", i.e. not *just* that. > If I'd meant transitivity, I'd have said that (that term I know). Woah, woah, woah! Calm down there, killer!