compile time class introspection?
Hasan Aljudy
hasan.aljudy at gmail.com
Fri Jun 15 19:32:33 PDT 2007
Bent Rasmussen wrote:
> It's impossible to generalize that all powerful techniques should be
> language features. I think you have to be more pragmatic than that. How
> foundational is a technique. What is gained by making it a language
> feature. Those kinds of questions need to be asked first, in my humble
> oppinion.
Well yeah, naturally, but I think reflection is one of those techniques
that should be a language feature, IMHO.
>
>
> "Hasan Aljudy" <hasan.aljudy at gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:f4tf70$2afa$1 at digitalmars.com...
>>
>>
>> janderson wrote:
>>> Serg Kovrov wrote:
>>>> Beginning of the thread is in digitalmars.D.learn
>>>>
>>>> Chris Nicholson-Sauls wrote:
>>>>> This is an important thing about D that probably deserves a long
>>>>> and extensive tutorial somewhere... Many of its cooler features
>>>>> aren't really features at all, but side-effects of other more
>>>>> general features. So, to reuse this same example, no D doesn't
>>>>> have a way to ask if a class or structure has a particular method.
>>>>> D /does/ have a way to check for valid types... which,
>>>>> incidentally, non-existant members are invalid types. So, voila, a
>>>>> side-effect of checking its type is that you confirm it exists.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are others... a plethora, even. Walter is fond of lots of
>>>>> small things that can be put together to achieve amazing things --
>>>>> and I don't strictly disagree -- but it isn't usually obvious what
>>>>> you can do with those nifty little gadgets.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Chris Nicholson-Sauls
>>>>
>>>> This is really sad that it turned this way. As I understand Walter
>>>> himself criticizes such approach:
>>>>
>>>> "Many useful aspects of C++ templates have been discovered rather
>>>> than designed."
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think its great in C++ that you can do more with it then indented.
>>> Why limit the programmers imagination? Sure some hacks should be
>>> program features, like the static_assert. However, I think its great
>>> that you could have static assets in C/++ at all. In fact many of
>>> the "improvements" D has are from some great ideas programmers
>>> "hacked" into C++.
>>>
>>
>> IMHO:
>>
>> That's not too bad when your experimenting.
>>
>> But it's really really bad for a programming language that is being
>> used for commercial applications.
>
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