Tango quibbles - please write tickets so we can track them

Brad Anderson brad at dsource.org
Mon Sep 17 08:13:27 PDT 2007


Alexander Panek wrote:
> Janice Caron wrote:
>> On 9/17/07, Sean Kelly <sean at f4.ca> wrote:
>>> A more accurate analogy still, however, is to compare a software library
>>> to a tool.  In the construction trades I believe you'll find that
>>> complex tools are often customized by the user and craftsmen often even
>>> submit feedback to tool designers in an attempt to improve the
>>> suitability of tools for the work involved.  Spare time typically isn't
>>> an issue because the time spent is a part of work, not leisure.  In
>>> fact, some of Tango's users are actually involved in commercial
>>> projects.  I only wish I had the time to respond to their requests and
>>> bug reports that I would if maintaining Tango were my job.  Truth be
>>> told, Tango is already more popular than I expected it would be.
>>
>> I disagree, because in this instance, nobody asked me for feedback.
>> Instead, Kris asked me to *COMMIT MY SPARE TIME* and *HELP WITH THE
>> DOCUMENTATION*. That's what I said no to. I did not say no to giving
>> feedback.
>>
>> If you want to make the tool analogy, I'm not even using the damn
>> tool! Instead, I looked at it, said "I don't think I'll be using it",
>> and then the tool designer said "So help me improve it a bit", so I
>> said "I ain't got time, mate, sorry". End of analogy.
>>
>> If you guys are trying to make me feel guilty about this, it's not
>> going to work. If you don't like my analogies - fine! But for crying
>> out loud do we really have to spend several zillion posts trying to
>> argue about whether or not the analogy works? I was just trying to
>> explain why I said no, that's all. I didn't realise doing so was going
>> to cause so much grief.
> 
> Well, actually you have been ranting about Tango (i.e.: Tango developers
> not following the D Style Guide, not trying to be anyhow compatible with
> Phobos and especially your phrase about the development of Tango: "I
> wish they hadn't done that"). You didn't quite make a valid point why
> you don't like Tango (besides the style, which has its [well thought
> through] reason). That's ok, but giving constructive critique would have
> been a better way to spend time - as opposed to ranting -, which is the
> whole point of this discussion, I think.

Don't feed the troll!

BA



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