Fully transitive const is not necessary
Tim Burrell
tim at timburrell.net
Tue Apr 1 13:47:22 PDT 2008
Craig Black wrote:
> The D community has been working on this problem for about a year now. I'm
> don't know if such a "simple effective" solution exists as you imply. And
> even if it does, if it takes us another year to figure it out, then that's a
> year that we could be doing more productive things.
Working on const and working on a scheme for doing parallel programming
are basically completely unrelated. Yeah you may need one to do the
other, but a means for parallel programming isn't born out of proper
const support.
> Yes, I think the solution to scalable concurrency will probably be a systems
> programming language that supports multiple paradigms. D is a good
> candidate here, being very multi-paradigm. I still don't think writing
> scalable multithreaded apps will ever be easy.
Definitely not. But there are ways to make it easier. Currently D
employs none of these. Const will not improve the situation.
> My suggestion would be to implement a C++-like "logical const" system using
> the const keyword, and use the invariant keyword for Walter/Andrei's
> transitive const. Maybe that would give us the best of both worlds.
I think I agree with you. I'd just really like to see this debacle
sorted out so some real effort can be made toward D3 and the possibility
of parallel programming support.
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