Library standardization

Tower Ty towerty at msn.com.au
Sat Apr 19 17:24:22 PDT 2008


Koroskin Denis Wrote:

> First of all, I don't want to start Tango vs. Phobos vs. ??? flame war.
> But the way Tango or Phobos envolves is not the best one.
> 
> Current situation is, someone writes code, probably nice one, and it is  
> added
> to main trunk. Problem is, interface is implementation driven, not  
> otherwise.
> It is not discussed. And thats bad. Tests first, then code, Kent Beck said.
> Of course, implementation can affect interface, but only after trial.
> 
> I mean, what we need is a detailed document (probably, wikified one) with
> detailed library interfaces, their rationale, use cases, examples, stress
> tests but NO implementation! Implementation is important, too, but only to  
> end
> users, and not for standardization. Reference implementation will follow, I
> promise. It shouldn't be fast, it should be CORRECT and standard compliant  
> in
> the first place, and it should pass D Library Stress Test.
> 
> We need some kind of committee that would endorse that. And a separate  
> newsgroup
> section. Drafts should be stored in wiki.
> 
> As such, my suggestion is to revive digitalmars.dtl group!
> The condition is it should be regularly monitored by Walter/Andrei or any  
> other
> person, that will be assigned for a duty.
> 
> We should discuss and answer the following questions:
> 
> - How DTL should be organized (bunch of files or structured like in  
> Java/C#/Tango)?
> - What modules should it consist of?
> - What classes does it provide?
> - What interfaces these classes expose?
> - What feature set of D should it use?
> - Templates vs. Object Oriented approach
> 
> The library should document all these. Extensive set of functional and  
> unit tests should also be provided.
> Reference implementation for D1/D2 will exist. However, library should be  
> design driven, not implementation driven.
> 
> Any module/class/method should be removed if Walter is not satisfied with  
> it.
> Invariant should be held, that at any given moment Walter is satisfied  
> with every piece of the library.
> 
> I believe this is the only way we can create single powerful standard  
> library.
What a load of illiterate rubbish
Come from a C++ environment and want to change it all back to C++
Simple ,get out of D and go back to C



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