Tango vs Phobos

[Auria]

Bill Baxter Wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Graham St Jack
> <graham.stjack at internode.on.net> wrote:
> > On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 00:32:38 -0400, Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
> >
> >> "Graham St Jack" <graham.stjack at internode.on.net> wrote in message
> >> news:g7j16v$tfs$1 at digitalmars.com...
> >>> Quite a while ago there was talk of rearranging Tango and Phobos so
> >>> that they share the same runtime, allowing BOTH libraries to be
> >>> available in the same compiler installation.
> >>>
> >>> It looks to me as though D2 is stabilising, so now seems to be a good
> >>> time to rationalise the two libraries in D2. I use D2 because I want
> >>> the const stuff (and some other nice things too), but that locks me out
> >>> of Tango and all the other libraries that use it, most notably GUI
> >>> libraries.
> >>>
> >>> Is anything happening on this front?
> >>
> >> Well D2 forked around the same time as the D conference last year, at
> >> which that conclusion was reached, and since then W has made very little
> >> progress on merging the Phobos and Tango runtime libraries, instead
> >> focusing on new D2 features.  *shrug*
> >
> > Ok - well, I hope that will change soon.
> 
> Doesn't sound like it will, now with "SafeD" and the "shared" variable
> ideas apparently on the to-do list.
> There's always something big, always just beyond the horizon.
> 
> --bb

Yes, and even if i know this has been discussed to death, i'll allow myself to add i really dislike the direction D is taking. D's homepage states it is driven by practical experience and not academical feats. Hasn't a solid standard library been shown over time to be absolutely necessary for any language to become popular and highly usable? It seems like D is taking the direction of adding lots of sugar features, and misses basic practical experience stuff. All that sugar is totally useless if D doesn't even have a standard library upon which everything can be built