Sharing in D
superdan
super at dan.org
Thu Jul 31 22:36:36 PDT 2008
Walter Bright Wrote:
> Sean Kelly wrote:
> >> Java has synchronization and volatile, and it isn't good enough.
> > But volatile in Java is completely different. And Java doesn't support inline
> > ASM. That said, Java post JSR-133 (ie. Java today) is actually fine. The C++
> > 0x people simply didn't copy Java because the Java memory model is too
> > strict to appease the performance-crazed folks in the group :-)
>
> From talking to people who do large scale multithreaded Java programs,
> it is not fine. The problem is that there is no way to look at a
> non-trivial piece of code that you didn't write, and determine if it has
> dependencies on sequential consistency or not.
>
> I'm not arguing that a thread expert cannot make a thread correct
> program in Java and C++. They can. The problem is the inability to
> verify such correctness, no help is available from the language, and the
> dearth of such experts.
>
>
> > So "shared" will tell the compiler to automatically fence, etc?
>
> Yes.
yech. so i write this:
++a;
++b;
++c;
and very different code comes down the pike depending on a or b or c being shared. not easy to clarify the code is correct. this ain't cool.
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