[~ot] why is programming so fun?

[Yigal Chripun]

Me Here wrote:
> BCS wrote:
> 
>> as a Christian, I am supposed to show the world my faith.  
> 
> That is the crux of my personal objection to organised religion. 
> 
> The need, desire or worse, imperative, to announce or demonstrate ones "faith"
> to the wider world. It leads to the need to condemn those who announce or
> demonstrate a different faith, or even minor variations of the same faith. And
> that leads to wars, and extremism.
> 
> Whilst faith is between the individual and their god, it affects noone, except
> the individual. Hurts no one, And satisfies the criteria of most rational
> reading of most every set of teachings. The individual has their relationship
> with their god, and demonstrates their faith to the only two entities that
> matter to that relationship, in private. Shared faith between like minded
> individuals is fine, but once the need to demonstrate to non-like minded
> individuals takes precedence, all hell breaks loose. (Worded carefully!)
> 
> I can accept, and even admire, when individuals reach their own level of
> understanding about the teachings of their faith and choose to constrain their
> own lives and deeds in the light of that understanding. The problems arise when
> they seek to constrain the lives and deeds of others in the light of their
> understanding.
> 
> Indeed, I would go as far as to say that it isn't true faith if there *is* a
> need to demonstrate it. That smacks entirely of the need for validation of ones
> ideas and understanding from other mortals. And that's not "faith".
> 
> Of course. My need to expound my thoughts on this is equally, a demonstration,
> seeking (perhaps), validation. But then I make no claim to having faith.
> 
>> take that for what you will.
> 
> I take it as the conservative statements of a rational and thoughtful man who's
> given the subject a lot of thought, as have I, but simply reached different
> conclusions.
> 
> And, perhaps in that, we are not so dissimilar. We both, I think, allow for the
> possibility that rational people can consider the same evidence (and lack
> thereof) and reach different conclusions. No absolutism. And, I hope, we both
> accept that neither of us will ever know the truth for sure. We may believe,
> but we cannot, in this life at least, know.
> 
> Be well. b.

very well put and I wholeheartedly agree :)

  >  it isn't true faith if there *is* a need to demonstrate it.

very true indeed.