Std Phobos 2 and logging library?

[Don]

dsimcha wrote:
> == Quote from Andrei Alexandrescu (SeeWebsiteForEmail at erdani.org)'s article
>> Leandro Lucarella wrote:
>>> Christopher Wright, el 10 de abril a las 16:18 me escribiste:
>>>> BLS wrote:
>>>>> Zz wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there any plans for a logging library in Std Phobos 2.0?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Zz
>>>>> Why ask. Phobos is a one man show. In other word, Phobos is an ego-lib.
>>>>> In case that you want something special, ask the tango folks. ( beside,
>>>>> logging is avail. there for quite a while)
>>>>> Björn
>>>> It's at least a five-person show: Andrei, Walter, Sean Kelly, braddr,
>>>> and Don have committed to Phobos svn in the past two weeks. Random other
>>>> people have donated code to it.
>>>>
>>>> Granted, Sean probably only concerns himself with druntime
>>>> compatibility, and Don is probably mostly concerned with std.math and
>>>> related modules.
>>> And Braddr just made a documentation fix, and Walter only commits
>>> portability stuff and an occasional bug fix now and then, so...
>>>
>>> Yes, it really looks like a five-person show =)
>>>
>>> I think most work in Phobos now it's done by Andrei, there are other
>>> *collaborators* (the four other you named plus people sending patches), but
>>> it looks like Andrei's show to me. This is not necessarily bad, it's
>>> definitely  better than before, when it was Walter's show, now at least he
>>> can dedicate his efforts in the compiler and language and Phobos is having
>>> a lot more attention.
>> We'll be very happy to integrate credited contributions from anyone, and
>> to give dsource.org write access to serious participants. What I think
>> right now stands in the way of large participation to Phobos is that we
>> all still learn the ropes of D2; the possibilities are dizzying and we
>> haven't quite zeroed in on a particular style. Nonetheless, as it's been
>> noticed I'm always summoning help from this group. So again, if you feel
>> you want to contribute with ideas and/or code, don't hesitate.
>> Andrei
> 
> I think part of the problem (this is not a criticism, just a statement of fact, as
> I believe it to have overall been a good thing) is that you've evolved Phobos so
> fast lately that noone else can keep up with what the heck is going on.  While you
> appear to have done a great job on the new Phobos and things appear to be settling
> down now, in the interim trying to figure out what was and wasn't going to be
> completely turned upside down by ranges and Phobos 2 made contributing small
> improvements and new features rather difficult.

I think you're completely right here. There were a couple of compiler 
bugs which were preventing Andrei from checking his stuff in; that made 
it impossible for anyone else to do much.

It's also worth noting that Janice Caron was a very active contributer 
to Phobos, before she suddenly disappeared.

> I've definitely worked on projects like this before, where I was the lead person
> and they were evolving faster than I could keep other people up to date, etc.
> This gap can be frustrating, but sometimes it's necessary to allow a project to
> evolve freely.