Vectors and matrices
Lars Kyllingstad
public at kyllingen.NOSPAMnet
Thu Apr 16 00:12:33 PDT 2009
Robert Jacques wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:07:38 -0400, Lars Kyllingstad
> <public at kyllingen.nospamnet> wrote:
>
>> I am writing a D library based some of the stuff in SLATEC, and I've
>> come to a point where I need to decide on a way to manipulate vectors
>> and matrices. To that end, I have some ideas and questions I would
>> like comments on from the community.
>>
>> Ideally, I want to restrict the user as little as possible, so I'm
>> writing heavily templated code in which one can use both
>> library-defined vector/matrix types and built-in arrays (both static
>> and dynamic). My reasons for this are:
>>
>> a) Different problems may benefit from different types. Sparse
>> matrices, dense matrices, triangular matrices, etc. can all be
>> represented differently based on efficiency and/or memory requirements.
>>
>> b) I hope that, at some point, my library will be of such a
>> quality that it may be useful to others, and in that event I will
>> release it. Interoperability with other libraries is therefore a goal
>> for me, and a part of this is to let the user choose other
>> vector/matrix types than the ones provided by me.
>>
>> c) Often, for reasons of both efficiency and simplicity, it is
>> desirable to use arrays directly.
>>
>> My first question goes to those among you who do a lot of linear
>> algebra in D: Do you think supporting both library types and arrays
>> is worth the trouble? Or should I just go with one and be done with it?
>
> I'd say its worth the trouble.
>
>> A user-defined matrix type would have opIndex(i,j) defined, and to
>> retrieve elements one would write m[i,j]. However, the syntax for
>> two-dimensional arrays is m[i][j], and this means I have to put a lot
>> of static ifs around my code, in order to check the type every time I
>> access a matrix. This leads me to my second question, which is a
>> suggestion for a language change, so I expect a lot of resistance. :)
>
> I consider m[i][j] to be a jagged array, which is logically different
> from matrix types. (i.e. its not square, etc.)
>
>> Would it be problematic to define m[i,j,...] to be equivalent to
>> m[i][j][...] for built-in arrays, so that arrays and user-defined
>> types could be used interchangeably?
>
> Actually, I'd prefer actual dense arrays over syntactic sugar for jagged
> arrays.
Me too, but that's a bigger language change. At least there ought to be
a matrix type in the standard library.
>> (And, importantly, are there anyone but me who think they would
>> benefit from this?)
>>
>>
>> -Lars
>
> Good numerics and linear algebra is always appreciated. To that end
> there's a nice performance speedup in storing machine/byte strides
> instead of logical/element strides. (See:
> http://dobbscodetalk.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=502&Itemid=52
> Also, my lab maintains a vector/numerics/robotics package that might be
> of interest https://trac.lcsr.jhu.edu/cisst)
Thanks for the tip!
-Lars
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