property syntax strawman
Andrei Alexandrescu
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Mon Aug 3 07:56:51 PDT 2009
Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 03:43:43 -0400, Walter Bright
> <newshound1 at digitalmars.com> wrote:
>
>> Having optional parentheses does lead to unresolvable ambiguities. How
>> much of a problem that really is is debatable, but let's assume it
>> should be resolved. To resolve it, a property must be distinguishable
>> from a regular function.
>>
>> One way is to simply add a "property" attribute keyword:
>>
>> property bool empty() { ... }
>> property void empty(bool b) { ... }
>>
>> The problem is that:
>>
>> 1. there are a lot of keywords already
>> 2. keywords are global things
>>
>> The alternative is to have a unique syntax for properties. Ideally,
>> the syntax should be intuitive and mimic its use. After much fiddling,
>> and based on n.g. suggestions, Andrei and I penciled in:
>>
>> bool empty { ... }
>> void empty=(bool b) { ... }
>>
>> The only problem is when a declaration but not definition is desired:
>>
>> bool empty;
>>
>> but oops! That defines a field. So we came up with essentially a hack:
>>
>> bool empty{}
>>
>> i.e. the {} means the getter is declared, but defined elsewhere.
>>
>> What do you think?
>
> I have to confess, I thought I wrote my last reply for property debate...
>
> As for the proposed syntax, the setter syntax looks acceptable, but I
> don't really like the getter syntax.
>
> I can't think of a really good analagous setter symbol to =. Some of
> the other syntaxes I've seen show promise such as:
>
> bool empty.get { ... }
> void empty.set(bool b) {...}
>
> One thing to consider is if it should be possible to take a delegate of
> a property setter or getter, how do you identify the property function
> itself? This solution provides an easy way:
>
> &empty.get
> &empty.set
>
> The only issue with this is if the type returned from the getter
> actually defines a get field or method. While having a method called
> get might be a likely possibility, having that on a type that is likely
> to be returned as a property is probably unlikely. There is of course a
> workaround:
>
> empty.get().get();
>
> -or-
>
> auto tmp = empty;
> tmp.get();
>
> to call the underlying method.
>
> Another option is to name the getter and setter something less likely to
> be used, such as opGet/opSet or _get/_set. Finally, you could have a
> renaming rule that would allow access to the function. For example
> empty.get translates to get_empty(), so if you called get_empty() it
> would call the getter. C# does something like this.
>
> Yet another option is to involve some sort of punctuation, e.g.:
>
> empty.get(); // call the returned type's get function
> &empty at get; // delegate to the getter.
>
> Note that the only one of these that makes a lot of sense for the
> property keyword solution (or your solution) is the renaming empty to
> get_empty().
>
> I'm glad to see that this might actually be addressed.
>
> -Steve
That's one place where rewriting shines :o). There's no need to even
think of how to do it when properties work as get_empty() and
set_empty(bool) - the means are already in the language.
Andrei
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