yank unary '+'?
Andrei Alexandrescu
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Sun Dec 6 15:42:25 PST 2009
Walter Bright wrote:
> Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> Walter Bright wrote:
>>> Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>>>> Is there any good use of unary +? As an aside, Perl programs do use
>>>> it occasionally for syntactic disambiguation :o).
>>>
>>> An internet search reveals:
>>>
>>> 1. symmetry
>>>
>>> 2. compatibility with C and many other languages that use it
>>>
>>> 3. used with operator overloading to convert a user defined type to
>>> its preferred arithmetic representation (a cast can't know what the
>>> 'preferred' type is)
>>>
>>> 4. to create DSL languages, like Spirit, as Kenny points out
>>>
>>> 5. to coerce default integral promotion rules (again, cast(int) won't
>>> always produce the same result)
>>>
>>> 6. to visually emphasize that a literal is positive
>>>
>>> I say leave it in.
>>
>> I am completely underwhelmed by 1-6 and have strong arguments against
>> each, but "frankly, my dear" I have bigger problems than that. I have
>> exactly zero valid reasons I could mention in TDPL, and that's my
>> litmus test. I find the operator utterly useless. If '+' stays in,
>> then call it horsetrading but the occasionally useful '^^=' must also
>> be in.
>
> Think of it like the "bool" operator overload. bool gives a direct way
> for user defined times to be tested for if statements, etc.
If I think of it that way, that doesn't look too good. The bool operator
overload has been an unqualified and admitted failure for C++. The hacks
used to avoid that failure are very ingenious; none was within the realm
of what the language had planned or intended.
> Similarly,
> U+ gives a direct way for user defined types to be converted to their
> most desired arithmetic type.
Code that uses +a to convert a to another type? I'd consider that worse
than a hack and worse than incompetent - it's downright malicious.
Andrei
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