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[Andrei Alexandrescu]

aarti_pl wrote:
> Andrei Alexandrescu pisze:
>> Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
>>> On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:08:58 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu 
>>> <SeeWebsiteForEmail at erdani.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
>>>>> However, when I see:
>>>>>  x.empty;
>>>>>  I can't tell what is implied here.
>>>>
>>>> You can. In either C# or D language it could execute arbitrary code 
>>>> that you better know what it's supposed to do. D simply doesn't make 
>>>> it "bad style" as C# stupidly does.
>>>
>>> still not getting it, are you...
>>>
>>> Just forget it, I think this is a lost cause, I keep making the same 
>>> points over and over again, and you keep not reading them.
>>
>> I do read them and understand them. I mean, it's not rocket surgery. 
>> At the end of the day you say "x = a.b;" looks more like sheer access 
>> because that's what happens for fields already. Then you say "a.b()" 
>> in any context looks more like an action because it's clear that 
>> there's a function call involved. But your arguments are not 
>> convincing to me, and in turn I explained why. What would you do if 
>> you were me?
>>
>> Andrei
> 
> You should just accept what others want *although* you don't agree...
> 
> Steve's arguments are very good and convincing, and unfortunately 
> somehow you don't get them. And I don't see your arguments being 
> superior at all.

I do get his arguments. Not being convinced does not mean I don't
understand them. You seem to assume that as soon as I understood his
arguments I'd automatically agree, so somehow I don't understand them.

> Sorry for thread hijacking, but such discussions make me want not to use 
> D any more... I am writing because I still have some hope...

D has great features, and probably less warts than most other languages.
I understand how you feel, but I'd also hope that realistically your use
of the language hinges on a little more than this one issue.

> Maybe community should decide in poll who's arguments are better?

That would be helpful.


Andrei