Null references (oh no, not again!)
Sean Kelly
sean at invisibleduck.org
Wed Mar 4 10:01:43 PST 2009
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> Walter Bright wrote:
>> Daniel Keep wrote:
>>> I need to know when that null gets stored, not when my code trips over
>>> it and explodes later down the line.
>>
>> Ok, I see the difference, but I've rarely had any trouble finding out
>> where the assignment happened. In fact, I can't remember ever having a
>> problem finding that.
>>
>> That's because the null pointer exception is nearly always repeatable,
>> so it isn't hard to work backwards. The non-repeatable ones have been
>> due to memory corruption, which is a different issue entirely.
>
> The world is more diverse than one environment. When I run 200 jobs on a
> cluster, failure from null pointer usage comes back with no file and
> line information, no debugger nicely starting, no nothing. And it's not
> easy to reproduce that on a small machine with GUI and all.
At least Linux might produce a core dump that can be used to re-start
the process. Windows users are pretty much out of luck. That said, I
agree with you completely.
Sean
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