the cast mess
Vladimir Panteleev
thecybershadow at gmail.com
Sun May 17 20:57:33 PDT 2009
Hello digitalmars.D,
I'm concerned about the cast() situation with D. Right now, we use the same keyword and syntax to do three different things:
1) The obvious plain-old-data cast (casting one pointer type to another, structures, etc.)
2) Type conversion casts (casting floats to ints)
3) Dynamic casts for classes (may result in null)
(There may be more magic going on behind the scenes when e.g. casting between arrays with different element sizes - a proposal I saw some time ago to replace start/length with start/end would get rid of that)
I attached a small program demonstrating a few uses of cast that may have unexpected results for new users.
I'd like to ask: am I the only one who thinks that this inconsistent behavior of one of the language's base features sticks out like a sore thumb?
I can see where this mess is coming from - the first two are from C, and the third is from the more dynamic languages (C++ has dynamic_cast but it's a separate language construct). I'm not aware of a language that abuses the same cast operator for such varying effects.
Someone doing a code review will have to put in extra effort to tell apart safe casts from unsafe ones.
In a metaprogramming context, nothing can be said about "cast(T)x" - whether it's type-safe, what overheads will it incur, etc.
I have the following suggestions to remedy the problem. They're probably too drastic even for D2, so even if they'd get accepted - probably for D3:
1) Use the cast() keyword/syntax only to change the compiler's representation of the type. The source and target types must be of the same size. Practically it would be the same as *cast(T)(&x) with the current system, except with the additional size check. The compiler should issue a warning when previous versions would have performed data conversion.
2) Move all "magic" value type conversions (float => int etc.) to intrinsic functions declared in the standard library.
An additional argument for this move is that, IMO, taking the integer part of a floating-point number should be as accessible as rounding the number to the nearest integer, or any other float=>int conversions (trunc/ceil/etc.)
3) Switch to a new syntax for dynamic_cast-style casts. I propose the "c is T" syntax, which should function identically to the current "cast(T)c" and is much more readable.
Alternatively, we could bring back C-style casts for safe and "magic" type conversions (points 2 and 3), and leave cast() (or rename it to something scarier) for unsafe "reinterpret" casts.
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Best regards,
Vladimir mailto:thecybershadow at gmail.com
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