"with" still sucks + removing features + adding features

Andrei Alexandrescu SeeWebsiteForEmail at erdani.org
Tue May 19 15:18:27 PDT 2009


bearophile wrote:
> Andrei Alexandrescu:
>> I don't plan to discuss minor features on this group anymore.
> 
> In about two years I've never heard Walter say something like that
> (even if may think similar things every day), he doesn't need a
> pedestal.

This has nothing to do with a pedestal. It's simple pragmatics. We are 
fulfilling Wadler's law (http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Wadlers_Law) 
around here, and that's counterproductive.

Some of language design and most of syntax design are subjective. We all 
have a tendency to subjectively prefer features that we created and to 
be more critical of features that others have created. It's natural. 
They call it the better-than-average bias 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Wobegon_effect). I have that tendency 
as much as the next guy, but I also like to believe I do not let that 
mask my reasoning too bad. That is, I wouldn't go at any length to 
defend a no-win case and argue against others while at the same time 
consistently ignoring any explanation given several times and in several 
forms.

Case in point: omitting the trailing parens in function calls... I got 
destroyed on that one :o).


Andrei



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