Back from the dead - How is D going?
Don
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Sun Nov 22 09:23:24 PST 2009
Bruno Medeiros wrote:
> Thanks everyone for the links and comments. I see a lot has happened
> meanwhile, and I have a lot to catch up (annotations, safety features,
> concurrency changes like thread-local by default and whatnot, and other
> minor things)
>
> http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?LanguageDevel#FutureDirections
> Reading this I like a lot of the minor changes coming in. Like static
> arrays becoming value types. Or AAs and complex types moving from
> language to library, I think its good to make the language simpler
> whenever no significant amount of power or usefulness is lost (although
> I guessing the powers that be only agreed to move this to the library
> because now D's metaprogramming features, as well as new struct features
> and others, make it more feasible to implement these types in the library).
Exactly. They're also an important test: are the built-in features
*really* good enough to implement all this stuff?
> "Remove C-style declarations" -> again, quite good, simplifying language
> without any loss in power.
>
> "Remove typedef" Hum, Im curious about this one, but I'll read the
> appropriate threads later when I have the time.
>
> I also like this blog post as well:
> http://www.jfbillingsley.com/blog/?p=53
>
> Lutger wrote:
> >
> > Hi, welcome back!
> >
> > Here are a couple of bullet points for you, not sure what you missed and
> > what not:
> >
> > - Andrei Alexandrescu is writing (has almost completed) a book on D,
> to be
> > published around before april 2010 iirc
> >
> > - Around the same time, D2 should be finished.
> >
>
> Interesting. Does that mean that the D's design with regards to
> concurrency will be considered finished? (or that at least no major
> changes are expected?) And that D's designers (Andrei & co.) are happy
> with it?
Anything which is written in Andrei's book is a permanent feature of the
language. Hence the current rush to fix up the loose ends and remove
cruft. There are still a few unresolved issues with operator overloading
and with concurrency, and with aspects of the safe-D system.
> I was thinking that D2 would take longer to be finished, but it is good
> that it gets done soon. This way maybe we can start moving away from the
> current limbo state were the core majority of libraries and tools are
> pending in D1, which seems to be one of the great roadblocks at the
> moment for D's growth and development.
Definitely. After the book is published, the emphasis will switch to the
libraries, bug fixes, and the rest of the tool chain.
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