Eliminate class allocators and deallocators?

[Craig Black]

Jeremie Pelletier Wrote:

> Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> > Jeremie Pelletier wrote:
> >> Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> >>> Jeremie Pelletier wrote:
> >>>> Yeah I agree now after reading most of this thread, I know that 
> >>>> these keywords just map to functions.
> >>>>
> >>>> I've seen a proposal of a global new template somewhere, I don't 
> >>>> like that since at the global scope there are also structs, arrays 
> >>>> and whatnot that can be allocated by 'new'.
> >>>
> >>> Well it's easy to handle all of those with conditional templates.
> >>>
> >>>> I don't like the static new either since it prevents subclasses from 
> >>>> overriding their new/delete operations.
> >>>>
> >>>> What would then be a good way to replace new/delete operators to 
> >>>> still have them overridable? Isn't that the convenience that first 
> >>>> got them to be used in the first place? Other than global new/delete 
> >>>> overrides which is plain silly in D.
> >>>>
> >>>> I've pretty much found alternatives to all my other points against 
> >>>> taking out new/delete except for the override feature, find me an 
> >>>> alternative for that too and I'll be voting for new/delete to be 
> >>>> runtime function instead of language keywords, cause I can't think 
> >>>> of anything right now.
> >>>
> >>> I think you'd find this article interesting:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.ddj.com/article/printableArticle.jhtml?articleID=184405016&dept_url=/java/ 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Andrei
> >>
> >> That was a long read, but a most interesting one! I already was 
> >> familiar of these design pattens but only used them where new didn't 
> >> make sense, this article really was an eye opener on that level, 
> >> thanks a lot!
> >>
> >> You have my vote to remove new/delete now :)
> > 
> > Someone convinced someone else of something on the Internets. What's 
> > this world coming to???
> > 
> > Andrei
> 
> World peace, open-minded societies and money-free economies where love 
> and sharing has won over fear and competition.
> 
> Maybe not, but I can dream.

Perhaps not in our lifetime, but eventually. What you envision is inevitable. Kudos for not being emotionally attached to your view point.  You are ahead of your time.

-Craig