Array literals' default type
Lars T. Kyllingstad
public at kyllingen.NOSPAMnet
Sat Oct 10 09:12:27 PDT 2009
Christopher Wright wrote:
> Don wrote:
>> Christopher Wright wrote:
>>> Don wrote:
>>>> I don't understand why runtime-determined array literals even exist.
>>>> They're not literals!!!
>>>> They cause no end of trouble. IMHO we'd be *much* better off without
>>>> them.
>>>
>>> You don't see the use. I do. I would go on a murderous rampage if
>>> that feature were removed from the language.
>>>
>>> For example, one thing I recently wrote involved creating a process
>>> with a large number of arguments. The invocation looked like:
>>> exec("description", [procName, arg1, arg2] ~ generatedArgs ~ [arg3,
>>> arg4] ~ moreGeneratedArgs);
>>>
>>> There were about ten or fifteen lines like that.
>>>
>>> You'd suggest I rewrite that how?
>>> char[][] args;
>>> args ~= procName;
>>> args ~= arg1;
>>> args ~= arg2;
>>> args ~= generatedArgs;
>>> args ~= arg3;
>>
>> Of course not. These runtime 'array literals' are just syntax sugar
>> for a constructor call. Really, they are nothing more.
>
> I'm quite surprised that there is a runtime function for this. I would
> expect codegen to emit something like:
>
> array = __d_newarray(nBytes)
> array[0] = exp0
> array[1] = exp1
> ...
>
>> At worst, it would be something like:
>>
>> exec("description", createArray(procName, arg1, arg2) ~ generatedArgs
>> ~ createArray(arg3, arg4) ~ moreGeneratedArgs);
>
> PHP does this. I haven't used PHP enough to hate it.
I've used PHP a fair bit, and I don't hate its array syntax at all.
(There are plenty of other things in PHP to hate, though.) It's easily
readable, and not much of a hassle to write. But array() in PHP isn't a
function, it's a language construct with special syntax. To create an
AA, for instance, you'd write
$colours = array("apple" => "red", "pear" => "green");
I'm not sure what the D equivalent of that one should be.
-Lars
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