dmd support for IDEs and the D tool chain
Tomas Lindquist Olsen
tomas.l.olsen at gmail.com
Fri Oct 16 03:58:07 PDT 2009
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Jacob Carlborg <doob at me.com> wrote:
> Here is my thoughts and what I think is needed to build a really good IDE
> and maybe get some attention from the enterprise. It's really not enough for
> the compiler to output some json for an IDE to use, the whole tool chain
> needs to be revised.
>
> Compiler:
> * Written in D
> * Supports all major platform
> * 32 and 64bit support
> * Doesn't have annoying bugs like forward reference errors and problem
> with the linker
> * Built with and IDE in mind
> * Can be built as a (dynamic)library
> * Can build dynamic libraries
> * Supports incremental builds
> * Has clearly separate components, especially the front- and back-end.
> * Has a license that allows it to be built into an IDE and/or shipped
> with an IDE
> * Basically something like LLVM + Clang
>
> Compiler or separate tool:
> * Automatically tracks all dependencies and builds the
> application/library (like DSSS)
>
> GUI library:
> * Written in D
> * Supports all major platforms (mac, linux, win)
> * Uses native controls (as much as possible) to draw its controls
> * Supports (de)serializing controls (Glade, nib)
>
> IDE:
> * Written in D
> * Be able to show syntax and semantic errors as you type
> * Autocompletion
> * Refactoring
> * Building
> * Supports incremental builds
> * Basically something like Eclipse JDT
>
> GUI builder:
> * Supports (de)serializing controls (Glade, nib)
> * Basically something like Interface Builder, Glade
>
>
> All of the above would be the most optimal. For example, everything don't
> have to be built in D but for building an IDE in D I think that it would be
> easier.
>
> What we have now and what I think is the closest match:
>
> Compiler: LDC
> * Missing most of the mentioned things
> * Needs better platform support
> * At least the back-end is built like this
>
> We have DSSS and xfbuilder (or what it's called)
>
> GUI library: DWT
> * There are some bugs in the mac version
> * Doesn't support (de)serializing controls
> * Not built in a D-way
> * Maybe too heavy
>
> IDE: Descent
> * Missing some features like refactoring
> * Only supports building using an external tool
> * Needs to improve the syntax and semantic errors
> * Needs to improve the performance if possible
>
> GUI builder: Interface Builder, Entice Designer, Glade, whatever Qt uses
> * To my knowledge none of the above supports a GUI library like the
> one mentioned
>
>
> Any comments, thoughts?
>
> /Jacob Carlborg
>
>
GtkD supports Glade.
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