Using glog's design for Phobos?

[Andrei Alexandrescu]

On 8/27/10 14:44 PDT, so wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 04:34:43 +0300, Walter Bright
> <newshound2 at digitalmars.com> wrote:
>
>> Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>>> At my workplace we're using Google's logging library glog
>>> (http://google-glog.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/doc/glog.html), and the
>>> more I use it, the more I like it. It's simple, to the point, and
>>> effective.
>>> I was thinking it would be great to adapt a similar design into
>>> Phobos. There will be differences such as use of regular argument
>>> lists instead of << etc., but the spirit will be similar. What do you
>>> think?
>>
>> Ok, I'm going to get flamed for this, but,
>>
>> I don't get it
>>
>> I do logging all the time. It's usually customized to the particular
>> problem I'm trying to solve, so it involves uncommenting the right
>> printf's and then running it. Voila. Done.
>>
>> The logging libraries I've seen usually required more time spent
>> installing the package, getting it to compile, reading the
>> documentation, finding out it doesn't work, rereading the
>> documentation, etc., etc., than just putting in a #@$%^ printf, and
>> Bang, it works, cut & print.
>>
>> Even worse, the logging libraries are loaded with a grab bag of
>> trivial features to try and puff it up into looking impressive. They
>> always seemed to me to be a solution in search of a problem.
>>
>> Shields up! what am I missing about this?
>
> If D needs a standard logging library, it should but nothing more than...
> log_open("filename"); // somewhere at start, if possible hide this as well
> log(log_level_here, "doing this :", param0, ", and that", param1...);
> dlog(...);
>
> .....
>
> I dislike all lame logging libraries out there, where objects running
> around.
> Logger::init("filename");
> Logger log(...);
> log(level etc, ...);
> Logger::tini(...);
>
> If one needs a complex logging system, he should find/write one.
> Thanks!

Totally with you. My opinion: everything beyond 7 symbols plopped in 
std.stdio decays the likelihood of acceptance by half.

Andrei