Slides from my ACCU Silicon Valley talk

[retard]

Tue, 14 Dec 2010 02:56:45 +0100, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:

> Why do /you/ take it personally?

You've misunderstood. I only wish the discussion was a bit more technical 
and had less to do with opinions and hype. The reason is, a more 
technical approach might solve technical problems in more efficient way. 
But my goal is not to belittle social issues wrt language adoption. 
Surely I understand reddit isn't lambda-the-ultimate.org and I'm glad 
that the Go trolls didn't find the thread (yet). I just find this 
behavior incomprehensible. 

My personal stance on this matter is that I believe a more consistent and 
flexible mechanism for operators would fit D. I'm also a bit more of a 
fan of C++0x concepts than those contraints shown in the slides. I 
haven't really thought how it all would work out, but if the atmosphere 
was more ambitious to this direction, I could participate more. But it 
seems my vision conflicts badly with what D2 has become.

> 
> On 12/14/10, retard <re at tard.com.invalid> wrote:
>> Mon, 13 Dec 2010 14:44:36 -0500, snk_kid wrote:
>>
>>> Gary Whatmore Wrote:
>>>
>>>> Simen kjaeraas Wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Walter Bright <newshound2 at digitalmars.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>>>> > >> Compared to the talk at Google, I changed one of the "cool
>>>> > >> things" from threading to operator overloading. Didn't manage to
>>>> > >> talk about that - there were a million questions - although I
>>>> > >> think it's a great topic.
>>>> > >>  http://erdani.com/tdpl/2010-12-08-ACCU.pdf
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Anyone care to do the honors and post this to reddit programming?
>>>> >
>>>> > Done.
>>>> >
>>>> > http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/eklq0/
>> andrei_alexandrescus_talk_at_accu_silicon_valley/
>>>>
>>>> Guys, I made several sockpuppet reddit accounts to mod down the two
>>>> guys >criticising this thread. I recommend everyone to help us
>>>> improve D's publicity by >ignoring these trolls and voting them down.
>>>> It has worked before, too -- reddit >seems to fold the subthreads
>>>> that get too many negative votes. This makes it >look much better
>>>> than it is.
>>>>
>>>>  - G.W.
>>>
>>> That's absolutely pathetic, you're actually doing the community a
>>> disservice.
>>
>> I really don't know what to say. Take a look at
>>
>> 0 points: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/eklq0/
>> andrei_alexandrescus_talk_at_accu_silicon_valley/c18swbi
>>
>> or
>>
>> -1 points: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/eklq0/
>> andrei_alexandrescus_talk_at_accu_silicon_valley/c18sz8n
>>
>> These say nothing against D. Why does one take them personally? They
>> are both also highly informative. As far as I can tell, these two
>> comments go much deeper in operator semantics theory than the combined
>> effort of 68 other threads by Walter, Andrei et al. For example the
>> precedence of operators can get problematic when using several
>> libraries from various vendors.
>>
>> Then you have:
>>
>> http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/eklq0/
>> andrei_alexandrescus_talk_at_accu_silicon_valley/c18t1d5
>>
>> "I really like D (2.0) and I wish it would take off."
>>
>> 7 points? WTF? What is the value of this reply? It's a purely
>> subjective opinion and doesn't necessarily even beg for further
>> discussion.
>>