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Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:27:03 -0700, Walter Bright wrote:

> dsimcha wrote:
>> == Quote from Walter Bright (newshound2 at digitalmars.com)'s article
>>> van Rossum's. And on and on. (Perl, Python, Ruby, have only one
>>> implementation.)
>> 
>> Nitpick (since your overall post was mostly on target):  Python has
>> Jython and IronPython and PyPy.  Ruby has JRuby and IronRuby.
> 
> Those came along *much* later, like more than a decade *after* those
> languages were successful.

His point was: there *are* other implementations.

Other than that, the daily portion of bullshit talk from you is 
impressive.

"Around 2005, interest in the Ruby language surged in tandem with Ruby on 
Rails, a popular web application framework written in Ruby. Rails is 
frequently credited with making Ruby "famous" and the association is so 
strong that the two are sometimes conflated by programmers who are new to 
Ruby.[9]" [1]

"JRuby was originally created by Jan Arne Petersen, in 2001. At that time 
and for several years following, the code was a direct port of the Ruby 
1.6 C code. With the release of Ruby 1.8.6, an effort began to update 
JRuby to 1.8.6 features and semantics. Since 2001, several contributors 
have assisted the project, leading to the current (2008) core team of 
four members." [2]

"On April 30, 2007, at MIX 2007, Microsoft announced IronRuby, which uses 
the same name as Wilco Bauwer's IronRuby project with permission.[3] It 
was planned to be released to the public at OSCON 2007.[4]" [3]

My interpretation: JRuby existed before Ruby was famous. IronRuby was 
started pretty much because of the Rails hype. A lot of other CLR 
projects were also started at that time, though. It couldn't have started 
a lot earlier because of the immaturity of CLR.


I don't use Python that much so I have no idea when it really got 
popular. The code swarm video [4] gives some impressions. It looks like in 
2000 it finally took off. Jython started in 1997 and moved to sourceforge 
in 2000 [5]. IronPython was announced in 2006 [6].

Conclusion: 1997-2000 = -3 and 2006-2000 = 6 are a lot less than a 
"*much* later, like more than a decade"..

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_(programming_language)
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JRuby
[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IronRuby
[4] http://www.vimeo.com/1093745
[5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jython
[6] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IronPython