DVCS (was Re: Moving to D)
Jean Crystof
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Fri Jan 14 18:59:42 PST 2011
Jean Crystof Wrote:
> Walter Bright Wrote:
>
> > Daniel Gibson wrote:
> > > The hplip version in Ubuntu 8.04 and in Ubuntu 9.10 support your printer
> > > - I don't know about your version,
> >
> > 8.10
>
> This thread sure was interesting. Now what I'd like is if Walter could please try a Nvidia Geforce on Linux if the problems won't go away by upgrading his Ubuntu. Unfortunately that particular Ati graphics driver is constantly changing and it might take 1-2 years to make it work in Ubuntu: http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=15614
>
> The second thing is upgrading the Ubuntu. Telling how Linux sucks by using Ubuntu 8.10 is like telling how Windows 7 sucks when you're actually using Windows ME or 98. These have totally different software stacks, just to name a few:
>
> openoffice 2 vs 3
> ext3 vs ext4 filesystem
> usb2 vs usb3 nowadays
> kde3 vs kde4 (kde4 in 8.10 was badly broken)
> gcc 4.3 vs 4.5
> old style graphics drivers vs kernel mode switch
> faster bootup
> thousands of new features and drivers
> tens of thousands of bugfixes
>
> and so on. It makes no sense to discuss "Linux". It's constantly changing.
I tried to find the package lists for Ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid), but they're not online anymore. Using it is *totally* crazy. Do apt-get update and apt-get upgrade even work anymore? The Ubuntu idea was to provide a simple graphical tool for dist-upgrades. If I had designed it, I wouldn't even let you log in before upgrading. No wonder DMD binaries depended on legacy libraries some time ago. The compiler author should be using VAX or something similar like all dinosaurs do.
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