Is D not-for-profit or not?!

Daniel Gibson metalcaedes at gmail.com
Sun Jan 30 09:43:03 PST 2011


Am 30.01.2011 18:23, schrieb Akakima:
> "Jonathan M Davis"<jmdavisProg at gmx.com>  a écrit
>
> Why are you trying to change the meaning of Open Source ?
>
> Open Source comes with principles. It comes with a spirit. It about freedom.
> It's about *freely* sharing knowledge, tools, ...
> It does not come for more rights for the one who started distributing the
> knowledge.
>
> AFAIK, D is not a trademarked language. So everybody can produce a compiler
> for it.
>
> DMD is Digital Mars D. The Digital Mars implementation of D.
> Digital Mars is the vendor of this compiler.
>
>
>
> See:
>
>
>
> enum Vendor; Master list of D compiler vendors.
>
>
>    DigitalMars Digital Mars
>    const Vendor vendor : Which vendor produced this compiler.
>
>    DMD is not Open Source.
>
>    The backend licence is not an open source license.
>
>    There is zero souce code for snn.lib (which is a part of DMD).
>
>    >
>    >  D is a programming language. There's nothing about D which would be for
> profit or
>    >  not for profit. You don't sell a programming language.
>    >
>    >  The compilers could be for profit if they were sold, but they aren't.
> All of them
>    >  are open source, with the only snag being that the license for dmd's
> backend is
>    >  such that you can see the source but not copy it and change it and
> whatnot. The
>    >  frontend is entirely open source however, and both gdc and LDC are
> entirely open
>    >  source. Regardless, they're all free to download and use.
>    >
>    >  You can probably buy enterprise support for dmd from Digital Mars like
> you can
>    >  with dmc, but I don't know anything about that, and that's buying
> support not
>    >  software.
>    >
>    >  It really doesn't make sense to ask whether D is for profit or not.
>
> Yes it does.
> Because one must look at the spirit. Not at the words.
>
> When we talk about "D". We talk of the whole. It's not about the 4th letter
> of the alphabet.
>
> Open Source community will glady help a truely Open Source Project.
> D has it's place there.
>
> A lot of individuals has worked very very hard to get there place under the
> Sun. They are trying to create a world where there is collaboration and no
> competition.
>
> Every body is welcomed to join the efforts.
>
>
>> Programming languages aren't for profit. Their tools may be, but you don't
>> buy or rent programming languages, so asking whether D is for profit or
>> not really doesn't make any sense.
>>
>> - Jonathan M Davis
>
>
  I think you're mixing up "Open Source" with "Free Software".


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