DMD - Windows

[Nick Sabalausky]

"Manu" <turkeyman at gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:mailman.144.1325892989.16222.digitalmars-d at puremagic.com...
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> Most windows programmers will simply not consider the
> language until it is well supported in Visual Studio
>

Yea, and that's very unfortunate. I used to be a huge fan of visual studio 
for years (from around MSVC 5 through the first or second VS.NET), but now 
that I've tasted the alternatives, I find the build/project management to be 
a little too "magical" and proprietary (or at least too incompatible and 
inbred), and the UI to be too bloated. I think a lot of the people who are 
unwilling to try anything but a heavyweight IDE are being unfair to 
themselves and their projects by keeping themselves blinded. (Obviously, if 
they've done both ways and still prefer big IDE's, that's different.)

And the thing is too, with popular overrated langauges like C++ or Java, you 
*need* a fancy IDE to get anywhere and still maintain sanity. But what many 
of those people don't get, is that with better languages, you *don't* 
actually *need* all that other stuff. Sure, it can still be a nice bonus, 
but it's *not* a necessity like with the popular "puzzle" languages they're 
used to. It's like canned vegetables: You've gotta drench that shit in salt, 
sauces, spices, and all sorts of stuff just to make it go down. But with 
food that's quality in the first place, it doesn't matter: You can either 
dress it up or leave it as-is; either way it still works 
fine...no...*better* than starting with an inferior base.