OSCON 2012 notes

[Alex Rønne Petersen]

On 21-07-2012 22:26, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 21:59:12 +0200
> Alex Rønne Petersen <alex at lycus.org> wrote:
>
>> On 21-07-2012 21:51, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 09:47:06 -0400
>>> Michel Fortin <michel.fortin at michelf.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And also, more and more it'd require ARM support to be competitive
>>>> in the GUI area.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes. But there's an even bigger reason for ARM: Mobile devices, like
>>> iOS and Android. I'm not personally a fan of them, but nonetheless
>>> those things are HUGE (no pun intended). And yet the ONLY real
>>> language choices there are C++, Java and Objective-C (and Lua if
>>> you count "Son-of-Flash", ie Corona - which I don't count). And
>>> half of THOSE are out of the question if you want cross platform,
>>> which any sane developer should. So PERFECT fertile ground for D.
>>
>> ... and C# ;)
>>
>
> Oh, yea. I assume you're referring to Unity, right?

Nah, more of a shameless plug: http://xamarin.com/

(I work for Xamarin ;))

>
>>>
>>> I know I keep harping on that, but it's a big issue for me since I'm
>>> deep into that stuff now and goddamn do I wish I could be doing
>>> it in D, but D's support on those devices (or just outputting C/C++)
>>> unfortunately just isn't mature enough ATM.
>>>
>>
>> GDC is pretty far along as far as ARM support goes; I intend to have
>> another run through it one of these days to look at any remaining
>> issues.
>>
>
> That is encouraging to hear :) What about druntime and phobos, though?
> And what about D feature set, is it up to 2.059?

GDC is up to DMD FE 2.059, so as far as the language goes, D on ARM 
should be up to date. Phobos should already build on ARM as-is (I sent 
some ARM patches upstream recently, too). druntime might need tweaking 
for some recent changes in in the threading/GC infrastructure, but I'll 
have to investigate further to see what the state is. I'll probably get 
around to that on Monday.

>
> I wonder if maybe I could somehow tell Marmalade's annoying proprietary
> build system to pass in some extra object files to the linker? I'll have
> to ask on their forums. Because maybe then I could compile some stuff
> with GDC and link it in.
>
>

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Alex Rønne Petersen
alex at lycus.org
http://lycus.org