OSCON 2012 notes

[Paulo Pinto]

Am 22.07.2012 14:19, schrieb Michel Fortin:
> On 2012-07-21 19:51:37 +0000, Nick Sabalausky
> <SeeWebsiteToContactMe at semitwist.com> said:
>
>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 09:47:06 -0400
>> Michel Fortin <michel.fortin at michelf.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> And also, more and more it'd require ARM support to be competitive in
>>> the GUI area.
>>
>> Yes. But there's an even bigger reason for ARM: Mobile devices, like
>> iOS and Android. I'm not personally a fan of them, but nonetheless those
>> things are HUGE (no pun intended). And yet the ONLY real language
>> choices there are C++, Java and Objective-C (and Lua if you count
>> "Son-of-Flash", ie Corona - which I don't count). And half of THOSE are
>> out of the question if you want cross platform, which any sane developer
>> should. So PERFECT fertile ground for D.
>>
>> I know I keep harping on that, but it's a big issue for me since I'm
>> deep into that stuff now and goddamn do I wish I could be doing
>> it in D, but D's support on those devices (or just outputting C/C++)
>> unfortunately just isn't mature enough ATM.
>
> For my part, in the last year I've been building a big codebase that had
> to be C++ just because of this, with countless hours spent figuring out
> things that would have been a lot easier to do in D.
>
> Here's the problem as I came to realize it: no single project is going
> to be enough to justify the investment required to make it happen.
> Nobody's project is by itself big enough to make D/Objective-C
> worthwhile to produce and maintain, because making it and then keeping
> it in sync with both D and Apple's Objective-C is a huge effort that'll
> in itself derail the project you were using to justify the investment.
> So D/Objective-C has to stand as a project of its own somehow.
>
> Also, making it a cross-platform thing would require a similar
> investment for WinRT and Android (through JNI?). While it surely is
> technically possible and would sure help a lot of developers move away
> from C++, I'm not so sure such a thing will happen at all.
>

Those are the reasons why, even though I follow a few new programming 
languages with interest, in the end I keep on coding in JVM/.NET/C++.

Unfortunely my time is limited and I have to use what works out of the box.

--
Paulo