Impressed

[Russel Winder]

On Sun, 2012-07-29 at 21:35 +0200, Paulo Pinto wrote:
[…]
> The problem is that in the enterprise world with expendable 
> programmers, is very hard to do JVM based projects with anything 
> other than Java.

My experience from various training courses I have given is that in the
large corporate Web applications world, the average programmer knows
Java, just enough Java, and isn't that interested in anything else.
Gross oversimplification but a good indicator.  However within the
financial sector, some of the large players are ditching Java and
unitary systems in favour of a small Scala core and Python using what is
effectively an SOA architecture. In all these organizations there are
large bodies of C++ code hence a move away from Java and C# to Python.
In other organizations Java remains the core but Groovy, JRuby and
Clojure are admitted, which sounds like your experience…

> I was very happy when on a project for a new internal proprietary 
> JSF based framework, we were allowed to have Groovy as part of 
> the framework's supported languages.
> 
> That only happened because the said company was replacing the 
> Perl scripts by Groovy scripts in their deployment infrastructure.

Perl is a fine language in many ways and not so fine in others. It seems
though that it is increasingly seen as legacy in the way COBOL is. 

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