Does D have "structural sharing" of immutable collections?
Paulo Pinto
pjmlp at progtools.org
Thu May 24 01:41:30 PDT 2012
On Wednesday, 23 May 2012 at 21:12:04 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 20:51:31 Roman D. Boiko wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 23 May 2012 at 18:39:02 UTC, Stewart Gordon
>> wrote:
>> > On 23/05/2012 16:05, Roman D. Boiko wrote:
>> > <snip>
>> >
>> >> I need some immutable collections for my D Compiler Tools
>> >> project, namely linked list,
>> >> red-black tree, and possibly some others.
>> >
>> > <snip>
>> >
>> > What's the point of an immutable red-black tree?
>> >
>> > The whole point of a red-black tree is to facilitate fast
>> > dynamic addition, removal and lookup of elements.
>> >
>> > When the tree is immutable, only lookup speed is of any real
>> > relevance, so you might as well create a perfectly balanced
>> > binary tree. Or even better, an array.
>> >
>> > Stewart.
>>
>> Immutable collections in most cases have the same performance
>> characteristics as mutable ones. Space consumption may be
>> higher,
>> but not necessarily.
>>
>> Instead of mutating a collection, a new one is returned each
>> time
>> you add or remove an element. It shares most nodes with a
>> previous one.
>
> In my personal experience, that's not true at all. I've seen
> _huge_
> performance problems in Haskell when using a map. There may be
> cases where an
> immutable container may not pose large performance problems,
> but I would be
> _very_ wary of using immutable containers, and _very_ careful
> with them when I
> did.
>
> - Jonathan M Davis
While I am an Haskell newbie, I think most of those problems are
related to how hard it is for many developers to learn how to
properly
optimize Haskell code.
The straightforward way to do some things is not the most
performant, and
some optimizations require fine tuning of strict/lazy semantics
on the
data structures manipulations.
--
Paulo
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