synchronized (this[.classinfo]) in druntime and phobos
Steven Schveighoffer
schveiguy at yahoo.com
Wed May 30 14:30:25 PDT 2012
On Wed, 30 May 2012 16:56:51 -0400, deadalnix <deadalnix at gmail.com> wrote:
> Le 30/05/2012 22:31, Steven Schveighoffer a écrit :
>> On Wed, 30 May 2012 15:48:47 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu
>> <SeeWebsiteForEmail at erdani.org> wrote:
>>
>>> To clarify:
>>>
>>> On 5/30/12 12:25 PM, Alex Rønne Petersen wrote:
>>>> The mutex may not be
>>>> directly exposed in the sense that you can obtain a reference (though
>>>> in
>>>> reality in all compiler implementations, you can), but it is exposed
>>>> in
>>>> the sense that you can lock and unlock it, which is a mutation of
>>>> state
>>>> and program flow.
>>>
>>> synchronized (object) {
>>> writeln("about to unlock the object");
>>> XXX
>>> writeln("unlocked the object");
>>> }
>>>
>>> Replace "XXX" with a construct that unlocks the object.
>>
>> This is not what we are talking about.
>>
>> I guess the easiest way to say it is, the API used to "lock and then
>> subsequently unlock" the mutex. That is, even this:
>>
>> Object o = new Object;
>>
>> synchronized(o)
>> {
>> }
>>
>> is exposing the mutex in such a way that you can interfere with the
>> semantic meaning of the mutex, and cause preventable deadlocks.
>>
>> It would be preferrable for:
>>
>> synchronized(o)
>> {
>> }
>>
>> to be an error, unless typeof(o) allows it explicitly.
>>
>> I gave you a case where you can have a deadlock, even with simple fully
>> synchronized classes. You might say, "yeah, but all mutexes can have
>> deadlocks!".
>>
>> My contention is that if the default is you do *not* expose the mutex to
>> external callers, there *cannot* be a deadlock.
>>
>> Here is the example again:
>>
>> synchronized class A
>> {
>> private int _foo;
>> @property int foo() { return _foo;}
>> }
>>
>> synchronized class B
>> {
>> private A _a;
>> @property A a() { return _a;}
>> void fun() {}
>> }
>>
>> void thread(B b)
>> {
>> synchronized(b.a)
>> {
>> b.fun();
>> }
>> }
>>
>> If synchronized(b.a) is valid, deadlock can occur. If it's invalid,
>> deadlock *cannot* occur.
>>
>> -Steve
>
> This cannot remove all deadlocks, but yes, it goes in the right
> direction.
All deadlocks involving A and B mutexes. Or if not, can you show how? I
can't see it.
-Steve
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