Something needs to happen with shared, and soon.
Walter Bright
newshound2 at digitalmars.com
Sun Nov 11 18:30:17 PST 2012
On 11/11/2012 10:46 AM, Alex Rønne Petersen wrote:
> It's starting to get outright embarrassing to talk to newcomers about D's
> concurrency support because the most fundamental part of it -- the shared type
> qualifier -- does not have well-defined semantics at all.
I think a couple things are clear:
1. Slapping shared on a type is never going to make algorithms on that type work
in a concurrent context, regardless of what is done with memory barriers. Memory
barriers ensure sequential consistency, they do nothing for race conditions that
are sequentially consistent. Remember, single core CPUs are all sequentially
consistent, and still have major concurrency problems. This also means that
having templates accept shared(T) as arguments and have them magically generate
correct concurrent code is a pipe dream.
2. The idea of shared adding memory barriers for access is not going to ever
work. Adding barriers has to be done by someone who knows what they're doing for
that particular use case, and the compiler inserting them is not going to
substitute.
However, and this is a big however, having shared as compiler-enforced
self-documentation is immensely useful. It flags where and when data is being
shared. So, your algorithm won't compile when you pass it a shared type? That is
because it is NEVER GOING TO WORK with a shared type. At least you get a compile
time indication of this, rather than random runtime corruption.
To make a shared type work in an algorithm, you have to:
1. ensure single threaded access by aquiring a mutex
2. cast away shared
3. operate on the data
4. cast back to shared
5. release the mutex
Also, all op= need to be disabled for shared types.
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