What’s Wrong with OOP and FP

[Jonathan M Davis]

On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 09:51:33 Paulo Pinto wrote:
> On Wednesday, 13 November 2013 at 08:39:06 UTC, logicchains wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 13 November 2013 at 07:55:59 UTC, Froglegs wrote:
> >> Go is a boring language, kind of like Dart, I guess Google
> >> just sucks at language design? The do use an awful lot of
> >> Java, perhaps it has caused irreparable damage
> > 
> > If you were working in an Enterprise (TM) with coworkers who
> > were potentially competence-challenged, would you want them
> > having access to the power of D's compile time code generation?
> > Would you like to read and debug code that randomly
> > intermingled D's different function call methods; having to
> > determine whether foo.bar represents calling the bar method of
> > foo, calling the function bar with foo as an argument, or
> > accessing the field bar on object foo?
> 
> Speaking from my enterprise seat, there are lots of "potentially
> competence-challenged coworkers" in off-shore projects.
> 
> Maybe Google's target audience?

This conversation definitely seems to be taking a turn for the worse. Go was 
created by folks who believe in its goals and paradigms and believed that they 
could better serve those by creating a new language than by using existing 
ones. As I understand it, it was completely an engineering-driven solution and 
not business-driven at all. Google really had very little to do with its 
creation. It's just that the engineers who created it happened to be working 
at Google. And while we may not like the direction that Go went in, that 
doesn't mean that it's worthless or primarily intended to prevent bad 
programmers from fouling things up. Clearly, it does a good enough job that 
many programmers have taken a liking to it and written good, useful programs 
in it.

Personally, I have no interest in it and think that its designers made some 
very poor choices, but that doesn't mean that we should be making fun of it or 
make fun of Google for being the place where the engineers who created it 
work. The fact that Google let its engineers spend company time on creating a 
new programming langueg says very good things about Google, even if the 
language itself ultimately isn't what we'd like.

- Jonathan M Davis