[OT] Which IDE / Editor do you use?

[Jonathan M Davis]

On Saturday, September 14, 2013 04:23:35 Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 19:56:14 -0400
> 
> "Jonathan M Davis" <jmdavisProg at gmx.com> wrote:
> > I guess that it's a matter of perspective. Personally, I find the
> > Windows/DOS shell to be completely unusable and use git-bash when I'm
> > forced to use Windows. Windows definitely has some things going for
> > it (e.g. its graphics engine creams the horror that is X.org IMHO),
> > but on the whole, I find that Linux is just way better for a power
> > user like myself. Windows doesn't even come close to cutting it.
> 
> While I definitely prefer bash to the windows prompt overall, there are
> some places where I think windows makes the linux cmdline look bad.
> Like launching a GUI program instead of a CLI:
> 
> Windows (nice):
> % program-cli file.txt
> % program-gui file.txt
> 
> Linux (wtf?!):
> % program-cli file.txt
> % program-gui file.txt >/dev/null 2>%1 &

I actually often find that convenient, because that means that I can get the 
output from a GUI program when I need it (generally when there's a problem 
with it). And if I want to run a GUI program but don't want any output to 
stdout, I usually just use Alt+F2 to start it (which works in KDE - as I 
understand it, other DEs have similar facilities). So, I rarely start GUI 
programs other than gvim from the command line. And gvim actually acts the way 
that you want. Oddly, it doesn't even require & to avoid having it take over 
the shell, which I have mixed feelings about.

And while I can understand your annoyance, I'd expect there to be more 
problems in general if GUI programs were treated differently than other 
programs when run from the command line. Then you'd have to have a way to get 
the CLI behavior for a GUI program when you needed it rather than having 
everything just work the same, wheras right now, you just have to learn one 
way of doing things.

But it is true that it's often the case that starting a GUI program from the 
command line in Linux results in a lot more output than you want if you're 
just trying to run it.

- Jonathan M Davis