MSBUILD 2014, C# gets an ahead of time compiler to native code.

[Paulo Pinto]

On Monday, 7 April 2014 at 07:38:40 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 01:45:16 -0700, Paulo Pinto 
> <pjmlp at progtools.org> wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, 2 April 2014 at 21:43:05 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote:
>>> On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 13:36:56 -0700, Orvid King 
>>> <blah38621 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:24:00 -0500, Paulo Pinto 
>>>> <pjmlp at progtools.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So it finally happened, C# gets an AOT compiler in addition 
>>>>> to NGEN/JIT
>>>>> as part of standard Visual Studio tools.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/02/microsoft-updates-visual-studio-with-support-for-universal-projects-typescript-1-0-and-net-native-code-compilation/
>>>>>
>>>>> More information will be provided in the native sessions 
>>>>> tomorrow and on
>>>>> Friday.
>>>>>
>>>>> Posting this as it has direct implications into D's 
>>>>> adoption.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Paulo
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> NGen's been around since .net 2.0, all the native 
>>>> compilation is that they are talking about is just a few 
>>>> stubs and a nice pretty interface for developers to work 
>>>> with. They do not currently intend to support the AOT 
>>>> compilation for desktops, not in the way that D does at 
>>>> least. Microsoft's AOT interface will also only ever support 
>>>> Windows. If Apple is very lucky, they might support it on 
>>>> OSX, but it will never make it to Linux. All in all, this 
>>>> news is basically no news :P It's also been possible to AOT 
>>>> compile a .net program with mono on linux and deploy it with 
>>>> no dependencies for quite a while now.
>>>
>>> Incorrect. It is a fully AOT compiler using the Visual C++ 
>>> backend. NGen assemblies are incredibly fragile and machine 
>>> specific, by using the VC++ backend they have eliminated that 
>>> problem. It's not the Native C# language that has been talked 
>>> about, but it is definitely a step in the right direction.
>>
>> Actually it is.
>>
>> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Inside-NET-Native  
>> @00:12:00
>>
>> --
>> Paulo
>
>
> Erm. No it's not. That project is called M#, it is a different 
> language than C#. M# has a different but related set of 
> keywords/syntax compared to C#. The similarity is that they 
> both use the VC++ backend, but that is a more a case of 
> technology re-use than any meaningful relationship.

Sorry but you are wrong, they clearly state in several occasions 
that Project N, discussed at Visual Studio 2013 launch event is 
.NET Native.

If you wish I can track down all minutes from those presentations 
where such statements are issued.

M# is nothing more than a research project, that for what we 
know, like Midori, it won't ever see the light of the day outside 
Microsoft Research.

--
Paulo