Lost a new commercial user this week :(

[Chris via Digitalmars-d]

On Wednesday, 17 December 2014 at 09:48:43 UTC, Paolo Invernizzi 
wrote:
> On Wednesday, 17 December 2014 at 09:34:45 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
>>
>> To start using D effectively in production one needs to stop 
>> considering himself a customer. This is absolutely critical.
>
> This is a very interesting point: thanks you.
> ---
> Paolo

I second this, it's a very good point. The customer attitude 
permeates this whole thread. D is not a framework for very 
specific tasks in limited domains like node.js. Is is a 
programming language that can be used to build frameworks (like 
e.g. vibe.d) If you only need a feature or two for a web project 
(as the 20-30 lines of JS that were mentioned suggest), you 
probably shouldn't use vibe.d. Only if you want to create 
something bigger, build an infrastructure from scratch say, or 
need high performance, should you consider vibe.d, which does 
have a certain learning curve, no doubt about it, as does D. I 
use vibe.d now but before I started to use it, I had tested it 
for a while to see, if it suited the project, which included 
playing around with it in my spare time. I did this with other D 
projects too.

I don't think it's a good idea to tell people about how great D 
is and then throw them right into it without any preliminary 
training. It is, after all, a fully fledged programming language, 
not an API for certain tasks like querying a web server. A 
language like D has to be _learned_, concepts have to be 
_understood_, even if you are already familiar with C++, Java or 
C#. The same is true of any of the more complex languages. I bet 
you that, regardless of how good the infrastructure may be, you 
couldn't just sit down and hack away without knowing the 
language, be it Java, C# or C++, no matter how much you already 
know about programming. If you did hack a web server together 
quickly, I'd be worried about the quality of the code.

JS and Python are "quick and dirty" languages in the sense that 
they were designed for people who are not really into 
programming, but want to get a task done quick (and dirty if 
needs be). You cannot compare them with D.