[OT] Extra time spent
Chris via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d at puremagic.com
Fri Jun 6 06:39:19 PDT 2014
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 13:24:22 UTC, Dejan Lekic wrote:
> On Wednesday, 4 June 2014 at 17:57:16 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
> wrote:
>> On 6/4/2014 7:59 AM, Dejan Lekic wrote:
>>>
>>> I humbly believe programmer who does not spend spare time
>>> reading
>>> literature related to his/her work is most likely going to
>>> lose the job
>>> at some point, as people who DO spend time in their
>>> self-education will
>>> take the place.
>>>
>>
>> I know from direct observational experience that, depending on
>> the company, keeping one's job (or even getting one in the
>> first place) is not always dependent on one's ability to
>> actually do the job at all.
>>
>> (Heck, I've tutored CS 101 students, and even still: the worst
>> code I've ever seen by far was NOT beginners, but was
>> production code written by professionals whose jobs were
>> nowhere near the chopping block.)
>
> Well, we both know that circumstances can be pretty chaotic in
> any company. I am not going to defend professionals who write
> bad code, but I am just saying that I can understand the
> stress, and all that goes together, especially if the person is
> senior.
>
> A typical scenario is when (top-level) manager (M) want thing
> yesterday, and tell senior engineer (SE)
>
> M: How long will it take?
> SE: Well, we did not even analyse the requirements for this
> feature. Let's spend some time brainstorming this first, and
> then I will be able to do better estimation.
> M: We have no time for that, and I think you already have all
> you need.
> SE: OK, 3 days.
> M: What??? We need this thing yesterday!
> SE: Well, I could do a quick hack... It will take 1 day, but we
> will not have time to test, no time for code quality, etc.
> M: DO IT!!!
> (that "quick hack" code stays there because next week another
> urgent thing came, and SE never had time to make the code
> better)
>
> Moral of the story: it is not SE whom we have to blame for bad
> code, it can easily be the management who made deliberate
> decision for that...
If people knew how laws, sausages and software are made, there'd
be a revolution. :)
I remember that the ATMs of a particular bank didn't work for
several days, because they used an untested patch that contained
an infinite loop.
>>
>> That said, you're certainly right that continual
>> self-education is very important (even if one's job isn't on
>> the line).
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