RFC: moving forward with @nogc Phobos
John Colvin via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d at puremagic.com
Tue Sep 30 07:07:31 PDT 2014
On Monday, 29 September 2014 at 10:49:53 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
> Back when I've first introduced RCString I hinted that we have
> a larger strategy in mind. Here it is.
>
> The basic tenet of the approach is to reckon and act on the
> fact that memory allocation (the subject of allocators) is an
> entirely distinct topic from memory management, and more
> generally resource management. This clarifies that it would be
> wrong to approach alternatives to GC in Phobos by means of
> allocators. GC is not only an approach to memory allocation,
> but also an approach to memory management. Reducing it to
> either one is a mistake. In hindsight this looks rather obvious
> but it has caused me and many people better than myself a lot
> of headache.
>
> That said allocators are nice to have and use, and I will
> definitely follow up with std.allocator. However, std.allocator
> is not the key to a @nogc Phobos.
>
> Nor are ranges. There is an attitude that either output ranges,
> or input ranges in conjunction with lazy computation, would
> solve the issue of creating garbage.
> https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/phobos/pull/2423 is a
> good illustration of the latter approach: a range would be
> lazily created by chaining stuff together. A range-based
> approach would take us further than the allocators, but I see
> the following issues with it:
>
> (a) the whole approach doesn't stand scrutiny for non-linear
> outputs, e.g. outputting some sort of associative array or
> really any composite type quickly becomes tenuous either with
> an output range (eager) or with exposing an input range (lazy);
>
> (b) makes the style of programming without GC radically
> different, and much more cumbersome, than programming with GC;
> as a consequence, programmers who consider changing one
> approach to another, or implementing an algorithm neutral to
> it, are looking at a major rewrite;
>
> (c) would make D/@nogc a poor cousin of C++. This is quite out
> of character; technically, I have long gotten used to seeing
> most elaborate C++ code like poor emulation of simple D idioms.
> But C++ has spent years and decades taking to perfection an
> approach without a tracing garbage collector. A departure from
> that would need to be superior, and that doesn't seem to be the
> case with range-based approaches.
>
> ===========
>
> Now that we clarified that these existing attempts are not
> going to work well, the question remains what does. For Phobos
> I'm thinking of defining and using three policies:
>
> enum MemoryManagementPolicy { gc, rc, mrc }
> immutable
> gc = ResourceManagementPolicy.gc,
> rc = ResourceManagementPolicy.rc,
> mrc = ResourceManagementPolicy.mrc;
>
> The three policies are:
>
> (a) gc is the classic garbage-collected style of management;
>
> (b) rc is a reference-counted style still backed by the GC,
> i.e. the GC will still be able to pick up cycles and other
> kinds of leaks.
>
> (c) mrc is a reference-counted style backed by malloc.
>
> (It should be possible to collapse rc and mrc together and make
> the distinction dynamically, at runtime. I'm distinguishing
> them statically here for expository purposes.)
>
> The policy is a template parameter to functions in Phobos (and
> elsewhere), and informs the functions e.g. what types to
> return. Consider:
>
> auto setExtension(MemoryManagementPolicy mmp = gc, R1, R2)(R1
> path, R2 ext)
> if (...)
> {
> static if (mmp == gc) alias S = string;
> else alias S = RCString;
> S result;
> ...
> return result;
> }
>
> On the caller side:
>
> auto p1 = setExtension("hello", ".txt"); // fine, use gc
> auto p2 = setExtension!gc("hello", ".txt"); // same
> auto p3 = setExtension!rc("hello", ".txt"); // fine, use rc
>
> So by default it's going to continue being business as usual,
> but certain functions will allow passing in a (defaulted)
> policy for memory management.
>
> Destroy!
>
>
> Andrei
Instead of adding a new template parameter to every function
(which won't necessarily play nicely with existing IFTI and
variadic templates), why not allow template modules?
import stringRC = std.string!rc;
import stringGC = std.string!gc;
// in std/string.d
module std.string(MemoryManagementPolicy mmp)
pure @trusted S capitalize(S)(S s)
if (isSomeString!S)
{
//...
static if(mmp == MemoryManagementPolicy.gc)
{
//...
}
else static if .......
}
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