Lost a new commercial user this week :(
jack via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d at puremagic.com
Thu Jan 1 03:57:52 PST 2015
+1
you are wright. i think, on the chance of being "Willoughbeed",
that there needs to be a real plan.
It must include window users and a windows usable sdk.
On Thursday, 1 January 2015 at 10:48:10 UTC, Joakim wrote:
> On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 19:11:04 UTC, Andrei
> Alexandrescu wrote:
>> On 12/29/14 10:58 AM, Joakim wrote:
>>> It also means more people asking for stuff, then doing
>>> nothing to
>>> contribute towards it, as though the D community is their
>>> slave labor.
>>
>> If we, the D community, want D to succeed, we must change this
>> attitude. -- Andrei
>
> I was just going to let this go without answering, as it's
> ambiguous, but since Dicebot just said something similar to
> what I'd have said, I'll bite. What do you mean by this? That
> the people asking for stuff then doing nothing have to change
> their attitude or those in the D community, like Dicebot and
> me, who point out that their approach is unrealistic should
> change our attitude?
>
> And regardless of your answer to that question, what do you see
> as "success" for D and how do you plan to get there, given what
> you know now? It's possible that it's already a success for
> the community, as it works well enough for the thousands using
> and handful contributing to it, and they do not see your
> million-user goal as worth putting effort into.
>
> I'll note that I'd like to see D reach a million users, and I'm
> doing my small part by trying to get it on the gigantic Android
> install base, but my desire and single new port doesn't mean
> much since those will not be enough to get D to a million, and
> I'm not interested in working on Windows tooling or some other
> issues that might get it there.
>
> Similarly, whatever the definition of success is, whether yours
> or the community's, it's meaningless without a plan and a push
> to get there. I know you can't make people follow your plan,
> assuming you have one (not a dig, you just may not know how to
> get to a million yet), but you can still sketch out some
> specific efforts that you'd like to enable (more user bounties
> or better ways to get input from commercial users or a
> much-improved GC, which you have said you'd push for in a
> reddit comment) or put out a public agenda/roadmap you'd like
> to see prioritized.
>
> Without some purposeful steps in the direction of your
> "success," the D community is unlikely to randomly amble along
> towards where you're hoping, at least not in the next couple
> decades. ;)
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