Last call for AliasSeq
Paolo Invernizzi via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d at puremagic.com
Tue Jul 28 03:16:19 PDT 2015
On Tuesday, 28 July 2015 at 08:54:34 UTC, Marc Schütz wrote:
> On Monday, 27 July 2015 at 22:52:11 UTC, deadalnix wrote:
>> On Monday, 27 July 2015 at 09:01:33 UTC, Marc Schütz wrote:
>>> On Monday, 27 July 2015 at 02:14:57 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
>>> wrote:
>>>> AliasTuple in particular has serious issues with it from the
>>>> perspective of teaching people what it is an how to use it,
>>>> because it has Tuple in its name,
>>>
>>> People keep claiming that, but have never posted any
>>> evidence. We know that _TypeTuple_ had issues, but for all we
>>> know, the problem was the "Type" part, not the "Tuple" part.
>>>
>>
>> We have various reports that are consistent and confirm this
>> is an issue. At this point, this is a repeatable experiment,
>> not an anecdote anymore. Ignoring repeatable experiment puts
>> you in the tinfoil hat section of the population. You don't
>> want to be there.
>
> Well, your post kind of proves my point. You've stated this
> several times, and you mentioned that people had problems, but
> as evidence you only mentioned some obscure irc communications
> that - for all I know - no one except you has ever seen. Now, I
> could simply believe you there (after all you're a competent
> person), but... that's not very scientific at all. If you say
> that these are repeatable experiments, with a representative
> sample of the programming community (or even just beginners),
> with consistent outcomes, then I prefer to see evidence for
> these claims before I believe them. I'm therefore not ignoring
> experiments, I have doubts about the validity of said
> experiments.
That's nonsense.
Being a company that regularly teaches D to newcomers, I can
confirm that in the real world it's a mess to teach TypeTuple.
And IMHO that is the common experience of everyone that has to
deal regularly with someone that he's learning D in the
development department.
Dicebot, feel free to correct me, but I think that this is also
what you are experiencing day by day in Berlin...
So, literally, what we are talking about? That's a fact, not a
speculation, and a fact that's costing to my company.
--
Paolo
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