A few notes on choosing between Go and D for a quick project
rumbu via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d at puremagic.com
Sat Mar 14 09:24:17 PDT 2015
On Saturday, 14 March 2015 at 15:13:44 UTC, weaselcat wrote:
>
> Regular desktop usage statistics don't apply to developer
> communities. The few times an OS survey was done here, it was
> overwhelmingly Linux IIRC. You can't expect people who don't
> use(or have access to) Windows/OSX to cater to those platforms.
This is the keyword: here. Don't expect to attract other kind of
developers if you have nothing to offer them. I am using D for 4
years now and I didn't even respond to these polls because I fill
as an outsider here. I don't find any use of levenshteinDistance
in my LOB applications, i'm keeping to use D for personal
experimental projects.
>
> D does not have a big corporation like Microsoft or Google
> backing it, it has people donating their own time.
>
> D focuses on portability because it's a systems programming
> language, not .NET in native form.
Portability limited to an OS with 3% usage? std.c.windows is
older than my grandma and contains ANSI Windows bindings. But
nothing about WinRT. Even the Windows API model has changed in
the meantime:
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/hh802935%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
"D is a language with C-like syntax and static typing. It
pragmatically combines efficiency, control, and modeling power,
with safety and programmer productivity." - this is on the
landing page.
I see nothing about "system programming language". But I saw
something about productivity.
> I can't really think of any language that doesn't implement
> strings as an array of characters.
I understand very well the meaning of "immutable(char)[]" but I
try to walk in the first time user's shoes. The problem is that
using a string you must understand before concepts like
immutability. To sort them, well, you must buy a book.
> complex numbers are much easier to implement than a good
> currency system.
Again, just a some calls to WinAPI -
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms221612(v=vs.85).aspx
Oops, I forgot, we need portability and probably a very versatile
kind of currency supporting n bits instead a simple 128 bit
standard one and we must write some efficient code, not like the
one written by these illiterate programmers from MS. And these
functions are not pure and @safe. Let's rewrite them.
>> So, IMHO, if you want to attract users, here is my list:
>> - concentrate on most used OSes - Windows/OSX and Android/iOS.
>> - don't write scary documentation;
>> - offer standard functionality instead of the obscure one.
>> It's nice to have it, but the use case scenarios are rare.
>> - a GUI will be nice. You know, that thing allowing the
>> developer to put a button and writing events... instead of the
>> sad black console used by nobody I know.
>
> Followed by renaming it to D#?
So having built-in Windows/OSX/Andoroid/iOS support, nice
documentation, real world functionality and a GUI system makes D
some kind of C#? Did I understand it correctly, or it's just a
pun?
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