Breaking changes in Visual C++ 2015

[Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d]

On 7 May 2015 at 14:16, d user via Digitalmars-d
<digitalmars-d at puremagic.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, 6 May 2015 at 18:26:27 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote:
>>
>> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/vstudio/bb531344(v=vs.140).aspx
>>
>> I'm sharing this specifically so we can have an unproductive flamewar
>> about whether breaking changes in D are sometimes worth it or if they are
>> holding D back from mass adoption :).
>
>
> the truth is, one of the biggest things holding D back from mass adoption is
> the complete lack of tooling compared to  basically every other mainstream
> language.
>
> Compare D to Go,
> https://golang.org/cmd/go/
>
> Go comes with a package manager, a linter, a static analysis tool, a
> formatter. Does D have these in some form? Sure. But you have to go hunting
> for them, and they're OK at best.
>
> And really, the only thing to blame for this is dmd. Go provides a Go parser
> and tokenizer right in their standard library - just one of the benefits of
> their compiler being written in Go.
>
> A lot of D's issues come back to: dmd is long in the tooth. Things D used to
> tout(faster compiler times) aren't really there anymore. My _desktop_ has a
> 8 core CPU - which dmd uses a whole 1 of when compiling. Due to how modules
> are compiled, it's _slower_ to do separate object compilation like in C++,
> so it's impossible to even get a gain from parallel compilation.
>
> Then you have LDC and GDC which generally lag behind dmd by a version or
> two(usually moreso for GDC,) fragmenting the libraries heavily because many

*Ahem* don't make such wild claims without backing with recent and
relevant evidence.


> new D versions fix tons of bugs. Due to dmd's license, it can't even be
> redistributed on Linux, BSD, etc. So now you have compilers for major Linux
> distros that are lagging versions behind. And really, the packages aren't
> well maintained anyways - LDC got blacklisted from Ubuntu for being
> unmaintained.

There's a difference between blacklisted and dropped.  In any case, it
has a new maintainer and is back in now...