Andrei's list of barriers to D adoption
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digitalmars-d at puremagic.com
Sun Jun 5 19:30:55 PDT 2016
On Monday, 6 June 2016 at 02:20:52 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> Andrei posted this on another thread. I felt it deserved its
> own thread. It's very important.
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> I go to conferences. Train and consult at large companies.
> Dozens every year, cumulatively thousands of people. I talk
> about D and ask people what it would take for them to use the
> language. Invariably I hear a surprisingly small number of
> reasons:
>
and it's taken you that long to now that the following are the
problem? (No offense... just seems like the following list is
obvious whether 1 or 1 googol)
> * The garbage collector eliminates probably 60% of potential
> users right off.
>
Duh! The claim is made that D can work without the GC... but
that's a red herring... If you take about the GC what do you
have? A ton of effort to build something that gets D to work
properly without the GC. It can be done but it isn't done except
by leet guru's who have the time and knowledge to do it. It is
not a built in option that works out of the box.
> * Tooling is immature and of poorer quality compared to the
> competition.
>
Duh! Every use Visual studio? Sure Visual D offers a glimpse of
hope, but only glimpse. D has some cool stuff but that's all it
is for most users in my guestimation.
> * Safety has holes and bugs.
>
> * Hiring people who know D is a problem.
>
> * Documentation and tutorials are weak.
>
> * There's no web services framework (by this time many folks
> know of D, but of those a shockingly small fraction has even
> heard of vibe.d). I have strongly argued with Sönke to bundle
> vibe.d with dmd over one year ago, and also in this forum.
> There wasn't enough interest.
>
> * (On Windows) if it doesn't have a compelling Visual Studio
> plugin, it doesn't exist.
>
> * Let's wait for the "herd effect" (corporate support) to start.
>
> * Not enough advantages over the competition to make up for the
> weaknesses above.
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